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Rocky! Rocky! I love that fuggin' movie. One is a classic.:yep

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Hey bro, you see Dawson last night? I think he keeps getting better every fight. He a fighter that applies to this thread, at least in the eyes of some "fans".
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Exactly. Johnson got old last night.

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It's understandable to take easier fights, but Calzaghe for instance, why wasn't he in the US fighting the likes of Hopkins, RJJ... hell, even Ottke much earlier than he did? Doens't matter why - you can argue it all you want. Point is he didn't and that's what people remember..
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Why wasn't RJJ fighting Calzaghe, DM, Eubank or Benn?
Why wasn't Hopkins fighting Abraham, Calzaghe, Ottke, DM?

It goes on and on and on.

Judge people on what they did do, not what they didn't.

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PugilisticPower said: ↑

Tall poppy syndrome.

People see the best fighters in the world and instinctively want to discredit them so use any reason/meaning possible to do so. "You should be fighting someone better" without realising at the top level, remaining undefeated for five title fights is damn hard to do, let alone the amount of times Floyd has won/defended titles, or Jones Jr, or Hopkins - all guys accused of avoiding other fighters.

Business comes into it, sometimes you want to fight better fighters but the ability to do business is not there, Floyd has asked for Cotto and Mosley before, Joe asked for Hopkins, Jones Jr, Ottke before - then you've got the ridiculous belt situation and the fact that mandatories are by no means the best fighters in the division anymore.

People just don't have enough common sense to realise why some of these issues are in our sport.
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NALLEGE said: ↑

gifted fighters? Jones, Floyd, Calzaghe, and even at one point in time Julio Cesar Chavez just to name a few were accused of ducking guys at one point during their careers...yet Gatti, Ward, Diego Corrales and many others I did not mention ARE given props for taking beatings win or lose or being in wars in almost every fight.

It seems that the more talented fighters pick a time and place to go to war while the less talented guys go to war against almost anyone near their talent in almost every fight. Is it because we love sluggers/ko artists who gives fans their money's worth with the kill or be killed attitude, or is it that you don't like super talented guys who seem to not give it their all who show mercy at times? If you have any other reason, spit it out.
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Surely you should already know the answer to this Nallege, being the underappreciated former world boxing champ you are?

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It's different for different fighters, but generally I think it's because they don't fight the fighters the fans want them to all the time. Sometimes that is fair enough, other times it's dead on.

We like to see fighters challenged. We all have different opinions on who will be a challenge to a certain fighter. Normally there is a consensus though - e.g. Loads of people think Mosley is PBF's biggest challenge right now because of his demolotion of Margarito. Add to this that he's fast, powerful, accurate, smart and arguably the second best in the division - it's more a case of WHY NOT make this happen?

It's understandable to take easier fights, but Calzaghe for instance, why wasn't he in the US fighting the likes of Hopkins, RJJ... hell, even Ottke much earlier than he did? Doens't matter why - you can argue it all you want. Point is he didn't and that's what people remember.

Also, there is the simple fact that the top guys in divisions just don't fight each other as much as fans would like. The systems in place allow for too much dodging and there is not nearly enough regulation to make the best fight the best. Instead you get people taking seemingly easier fights than what is truly out there to challenge them.
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Surely you should
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Eat a ***** infection breath.

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9 posts in, and I get an ouch lol... Alts lol...

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Surely you should already know the answer to this Nallege, being the underappreciated former world boxing champ you are?
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:rofl how soon they forget. :rofl

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Cowboys are on. Jeff, add Irnbruman and Bandeedo to the little ***** club, and pussheaded degenerate crew lol...

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PugilisticPower said: ↑

Let Dawson defend his title against people other than Tarver and Johnson and we'll see whats what.

I will admit, his improvement in both fights indicates he learns quick, I thought he'd lose to Johnson second time up.
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I think Eddie Mustafa is doing very good w/ Chad and keeping him on track. He's becoming a very good trainer in my opinion.

If Pascal beats Diaconu again, that would be an entertaining fight.

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Cowboys are on. Jeff, add Irnbruman and Bandeedo to the little ***** club, and pussheaded degenerate crew lol...
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My GF was talking about guys w/ small ***** syndrome the other day...LOL...they fit perfectly!

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Eat a ***** infection breath.
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Wow, defensive much?

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Cowboys are on. Jeff, add Irnbruman and Bandeedo to the little ***** club, and pussheaded degenerate crew lol...
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i guess asking for some autographed gloves with your signature is out of the question, huh?

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Cowboys are on. Jeff, add Irnbruman and Bandeedo to the little ***** club, and pussheaded degenerate crew lol...
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Momma, I done got called out on ma bull**** again...what amma gunna dew momma? :|

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