Classic forrums take on the Haye vs Valuev fight

I´m pretty sur he wouldn´t have stopped Valuev but ran out of gass if he would have gone for the KO. He had clever gameplan and sticked to it. Props for that.

The punch he staggered Valuev with wasn´t seen by Valuev which was clearly visible in the replay. A punch you don´t see is always more dangerous as one you see coming. And the punch wasn´t harder than the ones he hit Valuev before.

 

Hm, Haye has a huge stylistic advantage over Ruiz but then ruiz knows all the dirty tricks. I think Haye should be the favourite but I wouldn´t be surprised if Ruiz beats him - even by KO, Ruiz has a sneaky over-hand right and Haye´s chin is still questionable.

 

Povetkin and Peter will meet, can´t rememper the date but this fight is on. Quite a risk for Povetkin when he is already mandatory for Wlad and this is only a stay busy fight.

 

Any fight with valuev is a one off. Regardless of his skill set any heavyweight that fights him has to contend with unreal size and reach disadvantages thus has to fight a fight to counteract those advantages. I think people are reading too much into Haye's performance. He did what he had to do to win. He could've taken more risks but then Valuev had never even been hurt in a fight so he might not have made a dent in him at all and would've likely broken both hands or punched himself out. Haye boxed smart which many people thought he wasn't capable of doing, he had a low output but barely got hit at all. He went for it a bit more in the 12th because by then he wouldn't have several more rounds to contend with having unloaded and he wobbled him.

Everyone should just be grateful Valuev is no longer champion, he's a nice guy and he can box, but his main advantage is his size and I'm glad we could finally see the belts unified.

EDIT:

I'm just watching the fight again and the number of rounds valuev didn't actually land a single punch is astonishing.

 

Not at all. You're just a clown.

 

No I have the facts right.
Ring ratings for November 2009.
Champ.Wladimir Klitschko.
1.Vitali Klitschko.
2.Alexander Povetkin.
3.Eddie Chambers.
4.Ruslan Chagaev.
5.Nicolai Valuev.
6.Chris Arreola.
7.David Haye.
8.John Riuz.
9.Denis Boytsov..
10.Alexander Dimitrenko.

This was issued just prior to the Valuev/Haye fight.

Further research reveals that Johnson was not rated in the October issue either ,whereas Ruiz was number 9.
This forces me to conclude Johnson has never been rated,and also that you don't know what you are talking about,which, jives with words of Tom Jones ---- "Its Not Unusual"

 

He fought Chagaev and did fairly well I thought. Ruiz has never been one to duck opponents in my opinion. What young, ranked contender would take on Ruiz? It's not like Arreola, Johnson, Chambers or anyone has called him out. Next he will fight Haye.

In my own terminology, a gift decision is less controversial than an outright robbery. It means you were given the nod by the judges in a close decision that could have gone the other way, thus a "gift".

 

I'm not condemning Haye for taking the strategic, cautious route to the title, as I believe that you don't have to knock out the champion to win, but the hypocrisy of it all!!! All the talk about Hayes "power", rescuing the heavyweight division, and all his fans condemning Wlad for HIS safety first approach. It's a bit ironic to say the least.

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the hated Ruiz was to upset Haye, and Haye is doomed whenever he fights either one of the Klitschkos.

 

Do you really think the people take you serious when you aren´t even able to respect different oppinions?

 

The difference is Wlad does it against much smaller opponents, Haye did it against a guy who outweighed him more than he would outweigh floyd mayweather Another difference is he doesn't do it fight after fight after fight. Like I said a fight with Valuev is like no other for any fighter in the HW division, people are reading too much into it...

 

Ruiz get´s so much hate but how many hws toady are willing to take on everyone, come in in decent to good shape everytime and giver their best in every fight? Ruiz does so and he should get more respect for this!
Besides, he isn´t as bad as some make him out to be. He has decent skills and power. He maybe boring and fight dirty at times but hey, it´s primarly about winning, isn´t it?

But actually a gift is a decision you shouldn´t have got. A decision which could have gone either way is not a gift.

 

Good performance by David. Just the right gameplan. I can definitely see him beating Ruiz.

 

I don't necessarily think Valuev should have gotten the Ruiz and Donald decisions either. But they were close enough that they could have reasonably been given to him. Valuev has benefited from quite a few of such decisions.

I don't see how he got the Holyfield decision and not this decision against Haye though.

 

I believe he remains so highly ranked because of his disputed loss to Valueav. I think his team disputed the loss, and the WBA appointed Ruiz as the #1 contender. Remember Ruiz tried to sue to keep the Haye fight from happening, but accepted step aside money and a fight on the undercard with a shot at the winner, which Don King probably knew all along was going to be Haye.