6 more days and sadly Pacman excellent run comes to an end.

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  1. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this the punch on the second KD of Cotto? You sir, have a very good photography skills.
     
  2. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naw, he'll lose because Miguel is more versatile than Manny. The size is a factor but Manny is better athlete and Miguel is technically more proficient he cando more in the ring. I cant wait til the fight.
     
  3. newrp01

    newrp01 Active Member Full Member

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    I expect a lot of these types of statements on Sunday morning.
     
  4. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Diddo
     
  5. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    pac has fought more skilled and versatile fighters before with speed. If theres one thing going for cotto it is his size and power advantage. I don't wanna make it an excuse but cotto is definitely the bigger and stronger man, i'm just saying.
     
  6. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He may have fought more skilled fighters but not the kind with close to there know how in the ring, coupled with his power and size. Cotto is more versatile than Manny. What is he gonna do when his Sunday punch dont do the trick and he has to fight off the ropes and on the inside. Cotto is the best opponent Pac-Man has had since the Marquez rematch. Cotto can cut the ring off, counterpunch and off the back foot. Size isnt his only advantage. I cant wait til Saturday.:happy
     
  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Blah Blah...

    All this BS about how Cotto will beat Pac but if Pac beats him you will be the first here with a catalog of excuses.

    cant take a guy like you serious.
     
  8. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why because I can back up my opinion....If Pac-Man wins he wins, but dont think he will, whats gonna be your excuse when you hero gets stopped in the middle rounds.....he was too small, last time I checked he picked the weight.....where they do that at and he supposed to be the best p4p, say what you want about Floyd he never needed a fighter to catchweight for a title.
     
  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    I will have no excuses .

    Im not like you that says that Cotto will stop Pac in one post and in the other you talk about Cotto's weight setting up excuses for after the fight.
     
  10. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    Miguel Cotto had struggeled in some of his last fights,i mean he lost to Marguerito, and had some trouble against Clottey,IMO.

    Manny on the other hand had been very strong in his last couple of fights.. i know that i can´t compare Manny´s win over ODLH and Hatton,to what goes on in WW.
    But maybe Manny is a little bit more mentally ready,so to speak.

    Cotto is a true champion,and he allways fight his chance..And he is strong enough to do some damage..especially if he can land his bodyshots.
    So one of the questions that i find important is,how does Manny carry that extra weight going in to the fight??
    How much does it slow him down??

    And what is cotto´s gameplan during the fight??

    IMO Roach is a great coach when it comes to making a gameplan, and Manny´s a master of making it happen...

    Is Cotto the limit for how long Manny can move up in weight??

    It may sound crazy,but i think that Pac have enough power to Knock out Cotto...i just watch the way Hatton was KOéd,and it was a terrible left hook... Before the KO, hatton was caught several times,with some very hard shots with both hands...
    im still saying pacman victory...

    But NOTHING is for sure yet!!

    GREAT MATCHUP:good
     
  11. Blue_Ray

    Blue_Ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're contradicting yourself. How can this be war when you yourself has already predicted that Pac has no chance to win this fight. Are you nervous?
    :yep
     
  12. Blue_Ray

    Blue_Ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you really sure of what you're saying? Manny will win because he is ****ing fast and Cotto is slow. He will play around Cotto like what he did to Diaz. Remember, Pac has never lost a round in his last three fights.
     
  13. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot going on in this fight.

    Big question for me is how much did the Margarito fight take out of Cotto? Miguel hasn’t been on top of his game since round 5 of that fight. A good performance against a poor Jennings and then he had to fight a strange fight against Clottey having got cut early on. But, following Marg v Mosely, Cotto has a perfect excuse in that he could excusably assume that Margarito cheated in his fight too.

    But, I'm harking back to his win over Mosely (and to a lesser extent his win over Judah). Cotto boxed the head off the faster puncher. Pac is as fast with his hands as Mosely was at the time. But he is quicker on his feet. But Cotto's footwork is awesome. And I do think Pac has yet to be hit properly by a welterweight. Hatton hurt him briefly when he caught him, but Ricky was reckless that night. Cotto will not make that mistake. Cotto will have his hands high and will hunt Pac down. Box him into corners and land a couple before Pac can get out the way. Cotto is much quicker than Hatton was so I don’t see him being open to those rapid counters that Pac threw.

    But then, I just keep thinking about the De La Hoya fight. Yes Oscar was old, but Pac made him look stupid that night. Oscar couldn't even see a gap, let alone throw counters.

    I still think the nightmare style for Pacquiao is a counter puncher (as proved against Marquez and Mayweather would dispatch of Pacquiao with ease). Cotto is no counter puncher. A pressure fighter fighting Pacquiao sounds like it's made for Manny. And Manny has proved me wrong so many times in the past that I'm really struggling to predict against him.

    So...

    Cotto to sound Manny out for the first two rounds with Pacquiao dancing in and around him, throwing shots but not getting much back. Cotto will then press Pacquiao in the early mid rounds. Catch him a few times. Maybe put Manny on the canvas (added detail - with a body shot). But Manny's stamina will shine through he'll pull rounds back towards the end of the fight to nick a rightly deserved split decision. Last two rounds will see Cotto chase the fight and get picked off on the way in, and it'll be these two rounds which Manny wins which will win him the fight. Cotto's biggest problem is going to be catching Pacquiao. So I wouldn’t be surprised to see some good old fashioned ale house tactics from Cotto. Standing on Manny's front foot. Hitting as they pull out of the clinch. Leaning on Pacquiao where possible. A low blow at the midway point. Cotto hasn’t got form for this, it's just that it seems an obvious way to slow him down.

    Cuts could come into it. But to be fair to Cotto, his biggest cuts have come from a clash of heads (Clottey) and the bricks in Margarito's gloves, so I don’t see it being a massive concern.

    I'm not at all confident about the above though. I wouldn’t be overly surprised by any result that this fight throws up. It could end early for either fighter or we could be looking at a split decision or a complete schooling (splinters on my rear from all this fence sitting). But I'm gonna go with Manny on the cards...
     
  14. muchomacca

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    Cotto is slow, even shane mosley said cotto is quick.:huh

    youre also comparing Cotto to David Diaz, cmon
     
  15. henrik

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