So Let Me Get This Straight About David Haye

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rico Spadafora, Nov 9, 2009.


  1. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you know Valuev doesn't as well? I posed this question before and absolutely no one could answer me: which big punchers has Valuev ever faced. Until he fought Haye, the bigger puncher he has ever stepped in the ring with was Chagaev, who hasn't had a kayo in his past 6 fights. Right about the time he stepped up. And while I don't doubt that Valuev takes a better shot than Wlad, the fact is he has never been in with guys who can really punch..so we really don't know, do we?
     
  2. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he can beat a guy that big with only 15 punches a round, I estimate he'll only need 5 punches a round at best to keep glass jaw WALDO off him. It won't be necessary anyway because the first time Haye lands, WALDO will be in sleepy-land, same goes for VITLAY.
     
  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Haye is at Heavyweight now. None of those Cruiserweight fights matter. The majority of the time Haye is going to be the smaller man. That is not an excuse to run. Mike Tyson was always the smaller man and he never ran. It is pitiful.
     
  4. TheGiftedOne

    TheGiftedOne Active Member Full Member

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    but Haye's alot quicker than Wlad, which will give him a better chance at getting at Wlads chin before Wlad gets near Hayes. Whichever way Wlad-Haye pans out it won't see the halfway mark IMO
     
  5. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He went the distance with Haye, so yes we now know he has an iron chin.
     
  6. headhunter

    headhunter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  7. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean the shots he landed on Valuev in the 12 round? Point is he'll never reach the 12th against Wlad. My guess: Ray Austin part deux. :D
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    That was always the gameplan against Valuev. To give Valuev movement because thats how he's struggled in the past. Breaking his hand in the 2nd round when everything bounced off Valuev's giant head just emphasized the point, he had to be very careful and box his way to the win.

    Against a fighter thats been knocked out a few times there will be more emphasis on putting some serious hurt out there.

    This is just common sense.
     
  9. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the klits aren't that much closer to his dimensions. He has a punchers chance agains Wlad and almost no chance against Vitaly. Vitaly is alot more athletic than people give him credit for. I know Arreola isn't Haye but Vitaly stood in front of him with his hands down and made him miss all night, and even if Haye where to catch him the likelyhood of him falling isn't good.
     
  10. bdman

    bdman Active Member Full Member

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    He broke his hand round two, had to be more elusive and couldn't go for the kill or engage as much. clit sisters are getting shagged v soon.

    watch the video, see the swelling and eat a dick

    http://www.gm.tv/videos/star-guests/41161-heavyweight-boxing-champion-david-haye.html
     
  11. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree. I don't think Haye is that much quicker than Wlad. Sure, he is quicker. But Wlad has much quicker hands than a lot of people give him credit for. I mean, there's a reason why he lands a ridiculous number of jabs. (I don't know the exact percentage, but I'm sure it quite high.) And that, I believe, will be the difference in the fight. Haye is really going to have to take some big chances to get past that jab. And either he does it and knocks Wlad out, or he gets hit with a right coming in and it's all over.
     
  12. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't break his hand, moron. Stop spreading lies. He hurt his hand. That is all he said. As far as anyone knows, he did not get x-rays and he is not in a cast. Please, stop lying.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Who in your opinion has a better skill set?

    The Klitschko's or Valuev?

    Vitali is only 4 inches shorter than Valuev and much faster and a harder puncher. See where I am going with this?

    If he is not going to take a chance against Valuev who has no skill he is not going to take a chance against either Klitschko. It will be back to throwing 15 punches a round and back peddling the whole fight.

    Do you understand why someone might think this?
     
  14. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't break his hand. Can you guys stop lying. He said he hurt his hand. Where are the reports that say he actually broke his hand?
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The best chance Haye has to beat Wlad is nailing him in the first round and shaking him up. Wladimir can get into that tentative mode where he's cautious to let his right hand go, like he did against Ibragimov. If Haye is awkward and slippery, and Wlad knows he has the power to hurt him you might see a tentative Wlad only throwing the jab.

    If Wlad gets the confidence to let his punches go he'll win the fight in all probability.