Kermit Cintron Accuses Pacquiao of Steroid Use

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  1. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    20 months ago Pacquiao was at 130 lbs fighting JMM.
    In that fight he climbed the ring weighing in the low 140's......


    I look at what the fighter weigh's in the ring....against DLH, Pacquiao was at 148 lbs, about an 8 lbs gain from his Marquez fight at 130 lbs.
    Significant, but not huge.


    I cant expect Pacquiao who not long ago was a featherweight, to jump to welterweight and be as physically strong as Miguel Cotto.

    ......so far against DLH and Hatton, neither of those fighters were able to be physical against Pacquiao.


    I believe there is reason to suspect Pacquiao of steroid use now because the weight he's put on since his featherweight days is pure lean mass, but as I noted before, he has'nt put on a huge ammount of weight when we're talking about in the ring weight (not the official weight.)


    Certainly I dont believe that Pacquiao should be singled out to be accused of juicing.......anyone doing that should put weight numbers and performance on the table.......
    .....so far, I have'nt seen Pacquiao outmuscle anyone past his featherweight days, but as someone noted, steroids does more than just build mass, it also helps athletes be quicker, faster, and stronger even without putting on alot of mass.......


    Now, if I see Pacquiao walking down Cotto and physically being stronger than him and pushing him around the ring, I will most definitely say Pacquiao's juicing........
    ......but it just has'nt come down to that yet.
    As for now, its just quite possible that Pacquiao is just one of those freaks of nature that can jump up 10 to 15 lbs and not lose much as far as speed is concerned.

    Cintron imo should'nt be voicing this type of opinion to the public.







    Btw guys.......a couple of weeks ago, there was a thread that someone opened accusing Alex Ariza, Pacquiao's strenghth and conditioning coach, as being involved with the Balco steroid scandal........
    I did'nt have time to read through the thread as I had business to take care of......but when I got home to search for the thread, it was gone.
    .....apparently it was deleted for some reason.

    In any regard, anyone know of Alex Ariza having a history of his clients using steroids???
     
  3. nick dio

    nick dio Member Full Member

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    Anything to discredit the Pacman, pretty soon they're gonna throw in the proverbial kitchen sink. I won't be surprised if the next issue is about Aling Dionesia sleeping with Bob Arum ha ha ha.
     
  4. RealBoxing

    RealBoxing Kill The Nonsense Full Member

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    Kermit "The Killer" Cintron.
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    If Pacman had started his career when most guys do, he'd probably have been at at least 122 right?

    Pac started @ 107 at 16, and think I saw when Mayweather was that age, he won his first golden gloves at close to the same weight.

    So, it does not seem as unlikey as one would think.
     
  6. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Its not so much Pac's muscle that supises me its his training regien. I mean the guy trains 4 hrs to every 2 other top fighters do. Thats very impressive. There are many things other then steriods that could prove much more benificial to an athlete. It would be interesting to take a random blood sample from manny on a random day he is in camp.
     
  7. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look most fail to recognize that it's been a while now that Pacman had trouble making weight at 130...... He practically never had any fat to lose in training camp.....

    It's the same reason why Mayweather can't make 140 anymore because he barely carries any fat on his frame...
     
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    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly and there's no way to question Mayweather either because his training regimen is also on par with Pacman. Very few guys do that...

    Mayweather also has a high metabolism and practically carries no fat, in or out of training camp.
     
  9. madkillaz692000

    madkillaz692000 Fuerte y Abundante Full Member

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    cintron who?
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Lol... putting on the kind of muscle Manny's gained is nothing big AT ALL. Thinking that you need steroids to get his physique is so false. Manny is not close to the limit you can get without using steroids.

    Not only that but he's grown since then. Being ripped is all about body fat, some people just don't retain much and can lose it easily, Mayweather has the same type of body.
     
  11. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont know what the law is like in other countries, but in the UK saying things like that without proof will get the ass sued off you faster than you can even say sorry, and it will cost you thousands or even millions of pounds. Is it easy to sue for stuff like this in the USA? I know the UK is pretty much the easiest country in the world to sue for libel, people come to the UK especially to take other folk to court.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Pacquiao gets most of the steroid accusations nowadays, but I really wouldn't be the least bit surprised if illegal PED use (not necessarily steroids, but other drugs) were widespread among the sport at all levels.
     
  13. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kermit "Nobody hits that Hard" Cintron doesnt know what hes talking about.
     
  14. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every sport not just boxing....it's today's reality...
     
  15. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not steroids. White rice and genetics