Can Haye become an ATG by beating Vitali AND Wladmir

Cleans out the cruiserweights, becomes undisputed champ. Moves up to heavyweight and unifies WBA/WBC/WBO/IBF/IBO/Ring titles. Beating two of the greatest heavyweights of this generation.

I am not saying this will happen by any means, but just wondernig what victories over these two men would do for him. People often argue that Wladmir and Vitali are ATG Heavyweights.

 

Yeah sure if he beats them he becomes a minor great at least, but hes not going to, he going to get knocked out by either or both of them.

 

lol wut He only defended the CW title 1 time! He isnt even a great CW, just a very good one.
Hes ATG smack talker

 

If he beats both bro's, In the next 2 to 3 years he will so rich and an all time great.

 

Unifying the Cruiserweight and then Heavyweight division would be some accomplishment. He'd be a first ballot hall of famer. Whether he's becomes an all time great or not depends upon his manner of victory. Nonethless, beating the Klitschkos is a lot easier said than done. He would be a huge underdog going into either fight.

 

Haye lost to Valouev! Hell, all he did was run and depend on the judges which were interested in money. Valouev landed more punches which is not saying much. Haye just ran. What if "both" boxers refused to fight and just ran around the ring?

First of all, Haye backed out of a contract with Vlad, then backed out of a fight with Vitali. Haye will not fight either one of them because he knows he would get knocked out.

 

If he beat those two it would reflect more on them than it would on Haye, methinks.

 

Haye was a disgrace. Running without punching is a disgrace. He depended on his judges after his agreements with Sauerland and King.

 

If Haye would really unify the HW belts, I'd be first to bow to the ground and kiss his feet, but THIS WON'T HAPPEN. He was good in running around Valuev, but the real David did KO (in a way) Goliath with his slingshot, and today's David just run circles around Valuev like it were a "who can run faster" contest and not a boxing fight... He did more damage to his own hands then to Valuev's head... As soon as Haye fights a decent Heavyweight who can run faster then the grossly immobile Valuev, we will see how he fares...

 

No.

Great heavyweights have careers at heavyweight (even if they were once cruiserweights) in addition to beating great fighters.

They also have to dominate the division, which means taking on all challengers.

 

That really depends on wether or not you consider Wlad and Vit ATGs. You can't become an ATG if you do not beat an ATG.

 

Yeah he talks smack way too much. And I don't see him beating either klitschko brother, especially Vitali. I think Vitali wants to really really hurt David Haye lol.

 

Well it depends how he goes against other fighters. If he cleans out the division then yes.
But even this feat would be great so I say yes

 

I agree:good

 

You think? Why? We all know that Vitaliy is a tough SOB that gave Lennox a tough fight. Wlad is a long reigning champion who beat a lot of quality fighters. If they lose to Haye then it just says that Haye is really a big deal.