PACFAN MYTH #1 - Cotto lacks an effective right hand

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    nothing new here. Thats how the game works.
     
  2. kirk

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    LOL at scars post...... whining about pac NOT being one dimensional but will argue so pathetically that Cotto is completely one d.... LOL!!!! Neather are one D, but dont expect him to try and have a rational, logical discussion, his best tools are throwing around insults, getting over emotional, and overall bringing the discussion to a pathetic level. I mean, i can relate to the over emotional posts lol.... i do that too, but damn... he used to be an ok poster.


    anyways, as for the thread, personally i havnt seen many pac fans say that cottos right hand isnt good, hes always had a decent right hand, most of what cottos throw is quality, jab, left hook to the body, left hook to the head, right hand.... you name it he does it well.

    The right hand imo will play a big part in this fight, and is what will set up his bodypunching.


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  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is this before or after he got wobbled?
     
  4. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    I read his post again. There is nothing wrong about it except that he is a little emotional about it. He does have some arguably good points.
     
  5. kirk

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    not sure, but def before his hand was raised in victory :good


    let the hate burn..... :rofl
     
  6. NALLEGE

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    Cotto has no right hand, and that's why he gets knocked out.
     
  7. waldoesj

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    you are right, cotto's defense is always open for a looping right hook. but pac best punch is the straight left wich could be easy to counter.
     
  8. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto does have a mean straight right. It was obvious in the Torres fight, in which he dropped Torres with a sharp straight.
     
  9. kirk

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    lol...

    when someone has a different view then scar he gets personal by calling them some sort of what im sure he thinks is clever, when he gets called out on his **** (like saying valuev no doubt won the fight) his responce is 'different people have different opinions' and then insults them. And hes usually a hypocrite... and gets so irrational that his points become absurd.

    hes the general forums version of charlie z..... except scar actually knows a thing or two about boxing.

    i dont think anything is crazy absurd and wrong with that post enough to be deleted to be honest..... and i def dont think it should have been deleted, it is what it is, but its still typical scar. He crosses lines with people who make innocent posts (meaning they themselves are not crossing any lines) often.

    but i think the post was decent outside of the patranising tone which is a constant in his posts, and personal attacks.... imo pac is def not one d, hes got too much at his disposal to be considered such imo.
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    Originally Posted by Scar
    How does Pac have one style of fighting?, if anything he showed with his recent improvements that he can adapt and can fight defensive using counter punches and movement if he needs to. What makes him #1 P4P

    Pac is not pfp #1, and second, he is still one dimensional. He does not land those other punches you talk about on good fighters. He lands them on hand picked guys who are not his equal.

    and an ATG and what makes Roach an HOF/ATG trainer is how they brought serious changes to Pacman. That's NOT something any fighter can do, it takes a special fighter.

    Pac is NOT an atg, and Roach is not a atg/h.o.f trainer yet. It does take a special fighter to transform after being ko'd by head and body shots. PAc has Arum so he can continue to duck black fighters, and still get respect...

    Tacobell enthusiasts here tend to jump on any excuse they can find and any bandwagon available if a loss for Pac is possible and I can't blame them. What the hell are you smoking mentioning Morales and Marquez?, Pacquiao destroyed Morales and even with a serious cut and a one-dimensional style, at the time, Morales went life and death with him

    What's with the Taco Bell degenerate response ??? Morales and Pac did not go life and death in fight 1 so stop lying to us fans who saw that fight. Morales was never hurt in that fight, and did not have a mark on his face after that fight. Pac-Marquez 1 is more of what you're talking about.

    and Pac didn't have the gloves he wanted. When he got the gloves he wanted the very first clean punch lands on Morales in round 2 and he's rocked from one corner to another needing to grab the ropes to avoid hitting the canvas. Marquez was hurt badly against Pac and LOST to him, your tacobell scorecard isn't based on what they did in the ring it's based on who's from what country you want them to be which makes you a ******ed piece of trash.

    I'm surprised that you have not been temporarily banned pusshead. **** the gloves excuse because no sane fan will even side with you on that excuse. Second, many people think Pac WON the first fight with JMM, and LOST the rematch.

    Face it, Pac destroyed your idols and made quick work out of them in the process. Only one that gave Pac a serious challenge was Marquez and even Marquez was being ducked by your other idols back in the day, Pac immediately gave him a shot and the Pac fight is what made him recognized.

    Morales beat Pac while past his prime while Pac was IN his prime, and EM clearly won by more than what those sorry scorecards said, AND EM gave Dapidran a bit of fight while PAST HIS PRIME in the rematch. Second, I agree that JMM was ducked by EM and MAB, but did Pac rematch Torrecampo and Signsurat???

    His own countrymen, Barrera and Morales, didn't bother to mention him. Pac comes out of nowhere and fights him even though Marquez was an unknown back then with his biggest win being Derrick Gainer.

    So what you think Gainer was JMM's biggest win lol... Just like those other guysyou speak of...Pac is being managed today, and is not taking on the best. Dapidran is hand picking his comp just like EM and MAB did toward the end just as EM and MAB did toward the end. Arum's fighters tend to do this to keep cash in uncle daddy Arum's pockets.

    Pacquiao is NOT one-dimensional. If he's one-dimensional and crushed those guys what does that say about them?, they're all bums?, I know your ass will hurt trying to answer that question.

    Pac is one dimensional, and he just hides it behind speed and fighting inferior, old name comp. When PAc beats Floyd, he won't be called one dimensional by me anymore because it will take more than a one dimensional fighter to beat Floyd.

    Don't worry, just give Chavez Jr. 88 more fights against garbage pickers and nurses and he should attempt to avenge your heroes. For now, let's celebrate Pacquiao.

    Celebrate what? Celebrate the fact that he's called the best fighter in the world by RING mag when he's been ko'd twice, practically ducked Guzman and Campbell, and fought a used up Hatton, a shot Dlh, and a bum in Diaz AFTER beating the old guys at 130 lbs with the exception of JMM. Please!!!!!!

    The sad part is I know filth bags like you will give Pac zero credit if he wins. Then again, history doesn't pay attention to filth so Pac is safe.

    Yeah, well Dapidran shouldn't have asked to fight Cotto at 143, only to get the fight at 145 calling it a ww ttle fight. That was a ***** move, and the only filth is you for posting the Taco Bell shite you sorry sack of boneless shite. If I were Mexican, I'd have reported this post.
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    You post bigot shite too you fake ass former amateur boxer who was told to never turn pro.
     
  12. NALLEGE

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    Scar did not need to use the TACO BELL references. What if someone made a post about Filipino's, and the food they eat, and made it sound bigoted? Next time try to understand what is truly being said moron.
     
  13. kirk

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    :rofl

    nallege.... your worse then scar :rofl

    i guess you didnt see where i said 'BESIDES the patranising tone and PERSONAL ATTACKS'

    that means i think he shouldnt have said that lol, but you have to consider the source.....

    but i also agree with the other parts of his post and that is that i dont think pac is one d, and that we should appreciate pac.
     
  14. Bazooka

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    Taco Bell is not mexican food moron, its American fast food.....

    and its not just his Taco bell ****, there is other **** he post on this forum that clearly is directed at Mexicans. Again I wouldnt expect a racist like you to own up to someone else being racist when you two are sitting on the same side of the fence.
     
  15. AdiC

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    WTF! I like Taco Bell. Mexican Pizza is the sheeeettt!