Boxing Anomalies: Pernell Whitaker vs Juan Nazario

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by horst, Nov 10, 2009.


  1. horst

    horst Guest

    I'm guessing most of you guys have seen this one right?

    Juan Nazario goes into the fight as WBA champion, 22-2, coming off a stoppage win over Edwin Rosario. The only time he had previously been stopped was by Rosario after 8 rounds in 1987 (TKO not KO). And this being Rosario who retired with 41 quick wins from 47.

    Pernell Whitaker had only stopped two opponents in the 1st round at this stage, one guy with a record of 1-6 and the other with an even better 0-3.

    Had I been old enough to be a boxing fan at the time, I'd have bet the girlfriend's boob-job fund on a textbook Whitaker UD.


    Instead...... one of the sweetest single-shot KOs you ever did see! And in the first round!!

    Give Pernell a good stretch and you'd think it was Bob Foster in there.

    Centre of the ring, Nazario leans forward, Pea steps in and slices a rapier left hand right off his chin, Nazario stiffens for a second, then collapses, and there isn't even an attempt to get up till long after the ten has been counted.


    It's not a stoppage, not a TKO, not a KO where the guy trys to beat the count, but a KO as clean and definitive as any you've ever seen. Against a guy it took Edwin Rosario 8 rounds to break down, and who had never been stopped any other time.


    How do we explain this?? Pernell does have a reputation as a relatively light puncher, and his KO ratio is not the ratio of a man who can put a good opponent's lights out with a single swing.

    Did Pea have power but chose not to use it? Did he have power but his style was not suited to unleashing it? Or was this just one of those rare freak occurrences?


    Anyone have a take on this?
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Pernell could be a vicious puncher at times. His style kind of disguised that.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh well you could just have dumped her and find a girl with big naturals
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually, at 135 he showed himself to be a pretty solid puncher.

    Consider:
    -He brutally floored Roger Mayweather in the first round of their fight.
    -He floored and beat the **** out of Haugen, who had never before been down I believe.
    -He landed some big right hooks on Jose Luis Ramirez and discouraged him from coming forward in their rematch, allowing Whitaker to dominate the fight.
    -He gave Jorge Paez a brutal body beating.
     
  5. DDA365

    DDA365 Gatecrasher Full Member

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    Definitely an anomaly in the count

    1...2...3......4....5....6.............................
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    6.......
    .....7....8...9.....
     
  6. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most relatively light punching fighterrs that have great accuracy have some nice stoppages of B level and lower opposition.Whitaker had power that was more on Buchanan sort of leve, rather than true pillow fisted fighters like Locche or Ottke(who has the mundine KO ).

    Nazario got tagged hard by a quality shot before he had time to settle in and get used to Whitaker's punchpicking.
     
  7. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQqgwTWAxe4[/ame]
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Pernell Whitaker fooled the boxing world for years, probably. My guess is that he had Tyson quality power at lightweight but decided to just go rounds and outbox everyone and keep his hidden weapon locked in the closet.

    Really? Nah :lol:

    Punching power is something that cannot be explained. Some fighters out there have beautiful technique when they deliver punches but nothing happens when they land. Hopkins is a great example. He's got a superb arsenal of punches and he also has very good balance. He's virtually flawless when it comes to the technical aspect of punching. For some reason he doesn't have Jackson or McClellan power, as good as he is techincally. They say that power comes from the legs as well as the shoulders.

    Nobody on this forum can truely explain things to get an awnser.
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    ****, Sweet Pea. He'll know the awnser on punching power. Everything he comes up with on here is gospel. Just the very man we need to get a correct awnser, Popkins. :lol:
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    The fight was on the same card as Meldrick Taylor vs Primo Ramos, and Hector Camacho vs Tony Baltazar. Both of the preceding fights were lacking in action, and I can remember Larry Merchant thanking heavens that he didn't have to sit through another 12 rounds after Pernell stopped Nazario in 1.

    My take on the outcome, was that it was a very good performance by whitaker, but I'mnot about to chalk it up as Pernell being a hard hitter, nor Nazario being glass chinned. I think it was one of those freak cases where one man cought the other at the perfect time from the right angle, and with the right shot. It was sort of like Nunn's KO of Kalambay - a devastating KO, but not really a true reflection of what type of fighter either man really was...
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Pernell was fast and accurate.

    He had that slick defensive style but he would at times stand his ground. Well taht night he stood his ground and just landed a shot righ on the button
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A nowhere near prime Pea, at welterweight, slaughtered Dio Hurtado (who was undefeated, prime, and has since proven to have a good though not cast-iron chin) basically in a single round.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It was a fully torqued punch that landed on the point of the chin when Nazario was coming forward. These things happen.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    {ea was fast, accurate and brutal when he had an opponent hurt.

    Sometimes you only need the first two to floor an opponent.