What are the advances in Modern Training Methods

the theory regarding weights that i beleive is they do help your strength and all that.

But weihghts are incredibly easy and fun to do in favour of old fashioned conditioing which is realy realy boring. Now fighters in the old days did this boring training which is all about concentration and it makes you mentally stronger whereas weights dosent.

 

I'm no expert, far from it, but I think nutrional science is enough developed today to take that into the equation. I think than an athlete that follows a scientifically formed plan of nutrition will achieve better than one who doesn't, all other things equal. That results in athletic sports still improve points in this direction.

They certainly are in some sports (sprinting, jumping etc). Just look at Marion Jones, and others, without roids. Boxing is a bit more complex, though.

But I would say that a well balanced "diet" of illegal substances would improve your perfomance. Since sprinters as well as cyclists and cross country skiers use them they obviously improve both explosivity and endurance.

Fighting means more wear and tear than just sparring, though. Especially when it comes to old-timers that took fights on short notice and often ill-prepared.

Constantly going matches might mean you get less continuity in training as well. That you can't spend too much time experimenting different styles and revising particular techniques, since you always have to be on top of your game for the next fight. You can't afford to "invest" more long-term, so to speak.

You may well have a point here.

Poverty make you mentally tougher, but physically weaker. It's scientifically proven that if you're underfed and undernourished groving up it has a negative effect on both your physical and mental ability. Access to modern medical science also means that diseases have lesser impact on our overall health.

One of the main reasons as to why people in rich countries have stedaily become both smarter and bigger on average the last century is probably down to a higher standard of living.

But do fighters today do more drugs? Perhaps, I don't know. Sullivan was known for his binges, though, and Greb hardly spat in the glass.

 

What ignorance and meaningless bias you manage in 1 post, I'll focus on this 1 ignorant point for now.

1. Modern nutrition tells us to eat smaller 5-7 meals per day. Not only does this reduce fat levels, it also increases protein synethis, which in turn produces

2. Modern science tells us normal protein consumption does not give maximal muscle/strenth/recovery/growth. Protein is ofcourse the building blocks of all human cells. Modern athletes consume 3-4times a regular persons protein consumption

3. Modern nutrition gives us breakthrough concentrated nutrients that increase strength significantly from use. It also provides fat burners, joint recovery formulas, energy releasers, and all can be IOC legal supplements improving performance

4. Undermotivated fat boxers who don't take advantage of modern science are irrelevant to the discussion

Training has also improved in many ways but given you don't even appreciate nutritional improvements, why waste my time explaining to the uneducated?

 

Pad-work, Neck-strengthening, Dumbbell-punching.

 

I used to eat like that when I was into bodybuilding/powerlifting.
But for other sports (incl. boxing and martial arts) I dont find it useful or possible. It's hard to go through 2-3 hours of cardio and intensive training (including running) in a day and manage to do all that eating without it have a detrimental effect. It's not cool doing a boxing workout when you had a big protein shake and a turkey leg just 60-90 minutes earlier. But if that's what the science says, who am I to argue ?

 

Pad-work is relatively new (30 years?), but the other two are AS OLD AS THE HILLS.

 

Not to mention that dumbbell punching is inefficient anyway.

(Incidentally, Sullivan used it to train for Kilrain, and I think I've seen it in a turn-of-the-19th-century manual somewhere...)

 

Negative, about six years more or less.

 

why is dumbbel punching ineffective?

 

The angle of resistance is all wrong. (Unless you're just doing it for shoulder stamina, or if you're doing uppercuts).

 

The Klitschkos use it and they got a pretty decent punch.

 

ah ok

 

I didn't say it decreases punching power. Just that it's rather inefficient unless you're trying to build up shoulder endurance.

And Sullivan also did it.

Is there any video available of this, by the way? (not questioning you, just curious)

 

what's six years ?

 

Thats why you eat around 2hours or so earlier and eat smaller meals that dont bloat you