Sugar Ray Leonard-Marvin Hagler a clear win for Hagler

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  1. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Hagler did win that fight, 115-113, and the whole world knows it.
     
  2. bill poster

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  3. GDG

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    A fallacy, how can someone win "clearly" if one round difference makes it a draw?!?!

    And the TS said clear...not close but clear.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    They can win clearly because it's a round-by-round, ten-point-must system. If there are 7 clear/indisputable rounds for one guy and 5 clear/indisputable rounds for another, it's close but clear.

    A 118-110 fight can actually be much closer than a 115-113, if the ten rounds won by the victor in the former are all close rounds and the seven rounds won by victor in the latter are all dominant, clear rounds.

    This is pretty simple logic.
     
  5. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There wasn't even 6 clear rounds for any fighter in that fight...no way was there 7!!!!
     
  6. smitty_son408

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    Hagler did not win 7 rounds. Draw at best and that's coming from someone who has repeatedly tried to find any reason to score rounds in his favor.
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I watched it a few months back..I gave it to SRL something like 115-113
     
  8. haglerdude

    haglerdude Active Member Full Member

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    i gave 6 rds to marvin,5 to ray with one even.
     
  9. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    I had Hagler winning last time I watched it
     
  10. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DAMN! this happened ages ago and people are still talking about this fight!


    Just to show you how popular HAGLER is! :thumbsup:deal

    Yes! I belong to the fans that think Hagler should have won this!

    ALL TIME SOLID CHIN - Hagler!
     
  11. Brace

    Brace New Member Full Member

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    Leanord won that fight.Marvelous boxed with his head the whole night just walked into puches.Sugar Ray made Marvin look old,slow and tired.:-(
     
  12. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think Leonard won ????
    By trying to steal rounds with his 20 second shoeshine.
    That type of punchingsucks.
    They have no power and have little effect on the other guy.
    Besides the fact that Hagler blocked and slipped most of those punches.
    This fight was stolen from Marvin Hagler who was definately the Boss and in total control
     
  13. MAG1965

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    I had Leonard winning cleanly. Marvin was a little flat for this fight. He had not fought in over a year, and before that he only fought once since Hearns. So he fought only once since Hearns leading into the Leonard fight. So if you compare fighting only once in 2 years since Hearns, Hagler before Hearns fought 4 times in the 2 years before Hearns. Big difference.
     
  14. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    It could have been the other way, Hagler mixed his stance up so much but I cant recall who was calling the fight (maybe Pacheco) who was bewildered why Hagler was fighting southpaw or orthodox like you said
     
  15. thesandman

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    I was a very young pup at the time, and wanted Leonard to win (purely because Hagler beat Hearns, my favourite), and thought he did. Was overly impressed with the round stealing.

    My old man watched it too, and was convinced Hagler was jobbed. Said Hagler completely controlled the fight, coming forward the whole night, and nothing Leonard did had any impact on Hagler.

    Watched it again a couple of years ago. Was close, think Hagler made a monumental mistake going orthodox. Trying to prove he could box with Leonard, when he should have just fought his own way.