Ward vs. Kessler

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jan(DK), Nov 11, 2009.


  1. Jan(DK)

    Jan(DK) Joined april 2007 Full Member

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    Just re watch the Ward vs. Miranda fight. Good fight btw.

    If Ward is aloud to stand in the middle of the ring throwing the first punches, he is fast, precise and with some good combinations. Good body shots. But his defense is poor. When Miranda put some descent pressure on Ward, he backs up with out punching. His footwork seemed poor and he was easily court at the ropes or in the corner to be hit.

    As i have stated earlier. If Kessler can fight like he did vs. Mundine, Kessler will win. Putting on the pressure, tacking a little step forward, throwing the jab, throwing the long left hook (Kessler does that wery well and Ward is to be hit) and follows it all up by 1-2, 1-2-3 and 1-2-3-4 combinations.

    If Kessler can dictate the fight, i could see Ward in big trouble.

    Watch round 4 Ward vs. Miranda and round 4 Kessler vs. Mundine

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftPTe7oJriM[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpBMMnZ7HyU[/ame]
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Ward is counting on doing nothing in the fight. All he has to do is run and not throw any punches, this is what boxing is coming to. Dirrell, hold, run, fall down on canvas, complain, etc. Haye, run, throw a couple punches. Ward has his judges, his referee, his commentators ( the tell you who is winning) his venue, etc. This is a set-up. However, I think Kessler will still knock Ward out even with the referee trying to keep Kessler from hitting him.
     
  3. Djarnis

    Djarnis Member Full Member

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    I just read the interview transcript and i must say i was impressed with Ward. Clearly he knows that he is up against better opposition than he has ever faced. But he seemed confident and well prepared.
    I hope Kessler win (I am a Dane) but i'm not as confident as usual, its like before the Calzhaghe fight. Lets just hope for a better result.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't see how Kessler can get a decision in Ward's home town. He must go for the knockout, push the referee out of the way and knock him out. Kessler should have known better.
     
  5. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if it's hometown or not, Ward won't have home judges and Kessler won't have home judges. Just like the Abraham-Taylor fight and Froch-Dirrell fight. Also, Farmboxer in your first post on this thread why did you mention Dirrell? He lost his fight, so your argument doesn't make any sense so, you basically fail.
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Because Dirrell fans claim that if you do not fight, you run, hold, fall down on canvas, complain, then you should get a decision. All their fighter has to do is be standing at the end of the fight.

    Who are the judges and ref?
     
  7. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Ah, ok I see what you are saying now.

    Not sure, but for the Abraham-Taylor fights none of the judges or the ref were from Germany or the U.S. and the Froch-Dirrell fight none of the judges or the ref were from the U.S. or U.K. So, I'm assuming the same think will be for this fight. No U.S. or Denmark judges or ref.
     
  8. Djarnis

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    I think you underestimate the referees, Haye won in Germany, Kessler won in Australia same could happen on november 21.
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    In the first two fights, two judges were from Europe and the other judge and the referee were from the Americas. Hopefully they will do this in reverse for the fights in the US with a European referee and judge and two judges from that side of the Atlantic. I quite like that, makes it all appear fair.
     
  10. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm what I see there is Kessler beating a two time world champ in his hometown and Ward beating a never has been when he has home advantage.

    Kessler is a well proven operator who will be in his tenth world title bout, of which so far he has only lost one close one to the best guy in the division since RJJ. A lot of people are underestimating the step up in class that Ward is making here. Sorry but the Shelby Pudwills of this world arent going to prepare him for fighting Kessler.

    This is a simple fight to predict. Ward hasnt got the power to gets Kessler's respect nor the skills to avoid him for 12. As hasn't he got Andrade's chin Ward is going to get stopped, the only question is what round.
     
  11. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    people are sleeping on ward still. Sleeping on the guy who won the gold medal in 2004. The only guy to do that since when, back in 90 something? The kid has got tremendous skills. I told everyone here way back, and I am talking about 2 years ago, that ward is going to be undisputed champ. He is going to beat kessler. and he is going to win the whole tournament.
     
  12. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward's boxing skills are better than that ducking piece of **** calzaghe. So if calzaghe has got the skills to beat kessler, why doesnt ward? Cue incoming "well ward has not fought the competition that kessler did." I know. But the difference between me and the other guys is that I can predict a talent before it gets to that point.
     
  13. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe beat Kessler. Ward won't.
     
  14. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    To see both videos at the same is shocking. I was rooting for Kessler. now I'm sure. Everybody thinks Ward is fastest than Kessler. Well, just watch the tapes: Kessler's shots are as fast, crisper and stronger than Ward's. Ward has no chance against Kessler but he has against anyone else in the tournament.
     
  15. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I don't care about gold medals at the olympics. That's amateur boxing, with a helmut. Without a helmut, power counts and Ward doesn't have enough at the elite level to make the other guy respect him. I'm sorry for you but you will be disappointed in a week and a half.