Henry Armstrong nuthugging thread - why he was the greatest fighter of all time

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Mannasa at the moment i think Armstrong is better than he is great at the moment

I struggle to pick any feather or lightweight over him

 

He's definitely not greater head to head than he is on achievements. Let's not get carried away.

 

well his achievemnts are amazing i dont think he could get better than his achievements sense got abit carried away

but how many feather or lights do you pick over him?

 

Duran, Whitaker, Williams, and Arguello all stand very good chances of beating him. I'd favor the first 3 in fact, with a few others outside of Arguello standing outside chances as well.

 

I'm sure there are some featherweights/lightweights you could argue are 'better' than Armstrong, but in terms of 'would they beat him' then i don't know that there are many at all. So i see Greg's point definitely. You can clearly make the argument both ways though, the achievements are unreal, all things considered.

 

Then how would they be better than him?

 

i said 'better', not better. You high son?

You know what i mean, some might argue others are better technicians, or are better in such areas or aspects of the game. We all know it doesn't translate all the time, i.e Armstrong's workrate was so ridiculous, together with his style, that he is formidable at the lower weights in my opinion.

 

:huhUm, no. Are you? Last I checked "better" and "better" meant the same thing, and were in fact the exact same words.

Better just translates to more effective. Armstrong was undoubtedly one of the most effective, but not the most IMO due to his one-dimensional style. I think he could've been beaten by the very upper echelon fighters of certain styles.

Sandy Saddler is another one I forgot to mention who I'd make the favorite over Armstrong, moreso than Arguello, who I'd give a chance to based on his devstating body blows.
I think Saddler is a great stylistic foil to Armstrong.

 

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Of those 3 i only would bet Arguello and Williams of having a good chnce of beating him.

I think him vs Whittaker is a toss up but i favour Armstrong due to what i think is a stylistic match up

and Duran i think Armstrong is too strong and has too much workrate for a Lightweight Duran. But it is very close

 

good point i do think Saddler had a good style to beat him

 

You know what, i was just ****ing around with the 'are you high?' comment, i think you knew that. All i meant by the 'better' thing is that some may argue that others are better technicians etc etc, whereas ultimately better equals effectivenessand thus, favours Armstrong. And i never said he'd beat them all, i've always favoured Saddler over Armstrong, clearly. And yes i'd be picking Armstrong over Arguello. Arguello is a good styles match up imo, but it's the 'better'/BETTER thing again, meaning i'd take Armstrong.

No need to be argumentative there, i was just ****ing around.

 

Armstrong, as strong, and great a swarmer he was, doesn't want to walk right into a prime Sandy Saddler, nobody does. It boils down to that.