Does Roach view Cotto as another DLH?

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  1. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is Roach viewing Cotto as another DLH? Is this what has him so confident? We have the strong punches of Cotto, the lead left jab and the left hook, just like DLH. Both fighters orthodox stances but converted southpaws, both prefer to move forward than to move back.

    Thoughts...
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Roach view Pac as genuinely getting better, bigger and stronger. With DLH he knows hes been past prime for 10 years
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He might see things in Cotto he's not willing to discuss until after the fight. That's what I think.
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    he views cotto as another diaz. :D
     
  5. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but the Hoya Pac trained for was the Hoya from 10 years ago. Stylistically, that one might show up Sat. night.
     
  6. Ardo

    Ardo Member Full Member

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    I was thiking the same.
     
  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    How can you say that, those are things that Hoya can do "well" 10 years ago and Roach certainly knew he cant pull the trigger anymore and even if he did, hed get beaten to the punch all day. Cotto can still execute that style now
     
  8. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I agree. I just mean I'm sure Roach trained Pac for the worst case scenerio, that DLH would reverse the clock, not train him for a shot old fighter. That's what a good trainer would do. I'm just looking at similarities in a prime for prime sense, although yes, ten years apart. Of course there are dissimilarities, Cotto's high guard which does not get him hit with as many right hands as DLH but which also opens him, the way he bends and holds arms, toward uppercuts, and most telling of all, Cotto has superior footwork to DLH. Just talking theory is all, I'm not saying Cotto will lose like DLH.
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Another DLH? Most probably not. Roach is not that dumb.

    Cotto is younger, faster and hungrier and have more power than the DLH that Pac fought. Roach should know this.

    His confidence is just a showup . . . the truth is . . . he should be worried. But he can't show this because Pac's confidence will be affected too.

    Psychological HYPE for Pac's mental condition. :deal
     
  10. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Roach knows it'll be a tough fight, but I think he sees something, and has prepared for, something we don't know about.
     
  11. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn Skippy !!!!

    Roach is very worried about this fight....he knows he bit off more than he can chew. Pacquiao thinks its another wipeout of a fighter in decline.

    Surprise, Surprise Manny....when you find yourself staring at the ceiling lights in the 7th round...just be proud that you got your ass handed to you by a true welterweight champ !!!
     
  12. Boxing Fanatic

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    :lol:
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I think Roach doesnt know himself, he is hoping this weight will at least take a toll on Miguels mental toughness, but I dont really think this is the case Cotto is not old can pull the trigger, I think when Roach sat down to study Cotto he started to see that Cotto is a tougher nut to crack than he thinks.

    I will admit I bought into the Cotto is not the same fighter ****, when you look at the beating he took, when you think about that fight you remember Cotto waiving a white flag and taking a knee.

    Then you have a lesser fighter in jennings in which Cotto took his time with but still knocked out, and Clottey and people suggesting Cotto is not the same becuase he fought competitive with Joshua Clottey they are basicly dis crediting Clottey as a fighter, and when I watched that fight this week I suddenly realized, Cotto is not a damaged fighter, he had a cut very early and dug deep to get this done he placed his shots very well in that fight.

    sure he took some shots, but look at it this way, in the 6th round three rounds after that cut happend, Miguel Cotto threw 95 shots in that round....

    Roach hopes that this fight is a DLH like fight, but I think he knows to after seeing the recent tapes of Cotto, that this just isnt the case this saturday.
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    ive never seen a trainer with as many threads as Roach. hes a good trainer. but god like status on here with everyone examining his every word and thought...
     
  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    No. That's for sure.