I'm Starting to have doubts...Cotto Pacquiao.

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Yup, the way Cotto fights, he should neutralize the straight left but that right hook is gonna be a problem
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    He's not gonna "trade" hooks, he's gonna hit and move
     
  4. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I find all of the early KO predictions a little silly. We've got two absolute warriors going at it here, both with solid chins, both with underrated boxing ability. Cotto has matured from a seek and destroy brawler into being a very crafty boxer/ puncher, especially as his level of opposition has increased. I'm expecting him to force Manny to close distance a whole lot like Marquez did, and pick his spots very carefully.

    This thing could easily be a war of attrition that goes the distance or ends dramatically late.
     
  5. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    I dont think so, Pacman is too fast on his feet for Cotto to get in anywhere on the inside
     
  6. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah im just saying the right hook has gotten pretty quick so i can see him landing it often then getting out of the way.

    If he does try to trade hooks thats bad news for Manny but he wont.
     
  7. Bazooka

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    Cotto can adapt, thats the thing he has proven that, and if you say he is slow, well look at it this way, Mosley and Judah both fast hands and Cotto found a way to beat them, the Clottey fight, lets be straight Clotteys speed didnt look as it has in previous fights, the speed difference in that fight never exsisted....

    Paulie also has quick hands and Cotto re arranged his face in that fight....
     
  8. bachatu

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    The problem is that a lot of times Manny leads with the hook kind of wide (reference 1st Hatton knock down), and although its quick, Cotto can time him stick the straight jab out there, let Pac run into it....he does that enough will make pacquiao hesitant about throwing it. Pacquiao easily gets discouraged when he gets tagged or punished, look at JMM / PAC II fight as proof of this. When JMM would counter Pacquiao and started countering him in the early to mid rounds (when JMM had some gas in the tank) Pacquiao didn't have an answer for it and became timid at times. When he started catching JMM with straight lefts and JMM did nothing but go back, he continued to fire them. When JMM countered, Pac became tentative. The thing with Pac is you have to stop him at his tracks and make him pay when he comes in, give nothing for free ~ yeah, he may catch you with a punch or two but not without him getting hit back. One thing of note is that if you pay attention to Pacquios body language when he got into exchanges with JMM, he really seemed uncomfortable at times, I think his durability is not all that its cracked up to be. I think he does get hurt but is good at disguising it by lifting his hands, tapping his gloves together, etc... but what you have to look at is whether he backs off or keeps coming forward, most of the time he backs up, which is an indication he is not comfortable with the situation. If JMM can hurt Pacquiao, which I certainly believe he did, I can only imagine what Cotto can do to him if he catches him, which I believe he will, but he will have to set the tone early on and not let the rounds go by.
     
  9. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post.

    I was just rewatching the Hatton fight and Pacquiao landed the right hook with so much ease and it was too damn quick. Cotto isnt Hatton and i know he will time it and will land very good jabs. Cottos jab should feel pretty stiff considering its his strong hand.
     
  10. FinalBELL

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    The thing with Pac is not only does he have fast hands, but he has fast feet as well.

    Cotto cuts off the ring well though, but can he do it with Pac? Just another question in this great fight.
     
  11. Bazooka

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    Question is, if Cotto decides to box can Manny cut off the ring? we know he can with shot fighters....
     
  12. FinalBELL

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    Again, just another question in this fight, who will be the aggressor?
     
  13. betabong

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    Based on what I've seen in the training camp videos, the uppercuts will be used as counters after a 2 punch straight combos. Cotto comes in with head low and high guards. Cotto is very open for an uppercut. Also, Pac is stunningly accurate in splitting the guards. Pacman has been dominant against opponents with high guards, Barrerra, Diaz, and DeLahoya to name a few. We may have doubts that Pac can knockout Cotto, but I have no doubt, Cotto will get really busted up. If a slow Margarito can land those punches, I don't know how Cotto can defend Pac's onslaught.
     
  14. Bazooka

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    Sure Margarito is slow, but he is a very big man who puts pressure on you with a high work rate, the size alone is what effected miguel, then you add the work rate of course something has to give also cement in his gloves, and look what it took for Margarito to get that win, he took alot of punishment himself.

    Bring up Barrera and DLH, we know the truth about them, and David Diaz, this is a guy who went life and death with a shot Morales who came off of two back to back knock out losses at the hands of Manny pac.


    The mirage worked, Freddy Roach has built this fighter up to a good hype machine, and come saturday all of that will be exposed, not saying Manny is going to get blasted out of there, simply saying Size ****ing matters especially when the bigger man has skills....
     
  15. betabong

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    Loaded gloves or not, he was unable to avoid those punches. Also, you telling me, Pac can not give that kind of workrate?