Do any of you realize what a Pacquiao win will do for boxing?

Forget for a second who you want to win. Forget who you think will win. Sit back and look at the facts. Think about who's win would be better for boxing. If you look at it totally un-biased, it is obvious that a Pacquiao win - unless it's controversial - would be much, much better for boxing overall than a Cotto win.

I don't see how anyone who knows about boxing can deny that. Pacquiao is on a streak the likes of we seldom see in boxing. Superstars like Manny Pacquiao just don't come along often in boxing, for various reasons. Guys that could be superstars end up losing fights the shouldn't lose, like Mosley against Forrest, among others. A guy like Floyd Maweather is more or less a superstar, but is he more popular than Pacquiao? No, because Floyd doesn't fight the guys the public wants to see him fight, and Pac does.

Coming off wins over De La Hoya and Hatton has sent Pac's popularity soaring. I think this upcoming fight in the first in which he has everybody's attention...boxing fans, casual boxing fans, people who almost never watch boxing...hell, he might even have the attention of a few journalists at the New York Times. Cotto has none of that. This fight is what it is because of Pacquiao, not because of Cotto. Don't get me wrong, this fight wouldn't be as huge as it is if Pac was fighting some scrub, but the Pacquiao aspect is what is making this fight so anticipated.

With the world watching, and with Pacquiao on the streak he is on, and with the level of popularity he has earned...how can anyone say that him winning will not do tremendous things for the sport of boxing?

A Pacquiao win - especially one in spectacular fashion - will do for boxing what a Yankees World Series win would have done for New York in the fall of 2001.

 

Great post 100% true

 

A Pacquiao win further solidifies a great fighters career. In 20 years time you can talk about a great fighter that fought in your days like the old timers talk about Ali & SRR fighting in their days.

Most importantly, this will set up Floyd-Pac.

With the complete clash in personalities, their popularity combined, Floyd's trash talking, Pac's humble personality and both being the 2 top fighters by quite a margin, the fight will be so big. Pac was invited to Kimmel talk show for his upcoming fight, I imagine the sort of interest Pac-PBF would generate would be huge, they'll be in Oprah 1 week before the fight to talk about it!

Even in England where neither fighters is English (thus the English usually dont care) are demanding this fight! Thats how big it is. I talk to people who dont know boxing at all but they know Mayweather & Pacquiao (probably because they both beat Hatton) and thats the only fight they wanna see.

 

Let me give you an idea about Floyd Mayweather Jr and his status vs Pacquaio and his status

A Pacquaio win over Floyd would give us a bona fide ATG.

A Floyd win over Pacquaio would give us another discounted name on the career of a guy who deserves to be seen already as a bona fide ATG.

Floyd in 15 years will be seen for the talent he was now, but until then, people will always find a reason to discredit and discount his wins - in my view, him beating Cotto would mean more for NOW than him beating Pacquaio, which makes me believe Cotto needs to win this fight and fight Floyd if we want to see this era's version of a true rivalry at 147.

A Cotto vs Floyd trilogy? That would rate as ATG.
A Pacquaio vs Floyd triology? I just don't see any other result than 3-0 to Floyd.

So, from a heart point of view, I hope to see Cotto win.
From a head point of view, I think Cotto will win.

Then we can get down to Cotto vs Floyd - unlike Roach/Pacquaio - Cotto has shown there is no problem for him getting negotiations against tough fighters like Mosley, Margarito, Pacquaio and co.

 

While I agree.......the winner of this fight will definitley be a benefit to this sport. PAC moreso given the points you made, but should cotto win we'll all see a new superstar in Miguel and possibly an even better Cotto in the years to come. Beating PAC in the biggest fight of his career could send him sky rocketing upwards in more than one area. I love Miguel....he's great for the sport and I'm glad he's getting his big shot against PAC.

I do agree that a PAC win is HISTORY and given that he's on such an amazing streak continuting in this dirctions are things legends are made of. Definitly a more beneficial outcome for boxing as a whole if PAC wins but either guy will help the sport at the end of the day.

 

people suck pacs dick because he is the under dog who keeps proving everyone wrong.... people love that type of ****...

floyd could do the same exact thing and nobody will care because everyone thinks he is supposed to win...well people would care but it wouldnt be as big

 

I respect Cotto -- he's a great, dedicated fighter. Quite professional, and very consistent. Solid bloke.

That being said...I would love to see Pac win, for much the same reasons that you outlined. From the perspective of excitement and potential drama, a Pac win has to be favoured. Just IMAGINE the buzz that would take place around Mayweather/Pac...it would be crazy. If a fight like that doesn't catch the attention of the general public, nothing will. The buildup would be tremendous. Just imagine if Pac managed to beat both Cotto and Floyd (unlikely, in my opinion, but not impossible) and then retired. I wonder where people would place him all time on a P4P list...

Anyway, this is just me getting ahead of myself...Cotto awaits, and he'll easily be one of (maybe the) biggest challenge in Pac's career. We'll see.

 

I think if either fighter wins its good for boxing, so we cant go wrong, its an awesome match up!

 

Hence the problem you have.

Floyd basically needs to extend himself well above and beyond his current weight to find people he'd be an underdog against - even Paul Williams he'd go in as the top dog in that fight.

He's never going to be the underdog in a fight because whether or not people want to accept it, they begrudgingly realise this cat is an ATG and a guy who can beat pretty much anyone.

 

I agree.

 

PAC is already a bonafide ATG......with or without Floyd, but yea......it would definitley be a HUGE win and even further solidify his ATG Status catapulting his ATG rank upward without a doubt.

Floyd is already an ATG himself........based less on actually substance regarding who he beat throughout his career and based more on knowing a superb talent with amazing skills...one that is rarely seen. Unfortunately with how GREAT floyd is as a boxer his resume lacks the greatness we see in FLoyd when he shows flashes of what makes him amazing.

PAC....is great and on the ATG the good ol way.....fighting great fighters and dominating.....>Floyd dominates good fighters as he should but lacks the great names to place him among the top of the all time ATG's. Plus PAC has the same kind of Talent Floyd does...he just lacks the kind of technical skills Floyd has an abundance of.

But on the flip side Floyd lacks the kind of champions will, determination and ambition to test/challenge himself to push his legacy to the level we expect as a tremendous boxer that he surely is.

Stylistically Floyd eats up Cotto. Cotto doens't have the natrual ability or talent to compete with the likes of Floyd. PAC on the other hand can....although I see Floyd beating PAC as well. I just feel that an equal talent....one that can actually make Floyd fight with intelligent pressure will give us fans the kind of test Floyd needs for his legacy! I don't think Cotto has the tools, talent or ability to do this where I know PAC does.

 

For boxing, a Pac-Floyd match would certainly bore me to death. The hype would be good and all for the sport but the outcome of Floyd cruising to an easy victory would be bad.

That said if Cotto wins, then Floyd fights him and he wins. Maybe Floyd will have the confidence or guts to take on a good middleweight They'd be hellova matchups.

Plus we would see a Pac Jmm Trilogy

 

Pac hasn't done anything in this era to make me believe he deserves to be mentioned in the Top 10.

That, with the fact that he should have a loss against JMM in his career makes me struggle to give him much more than respect for his achievements. He's never cleared a division, very rarely been lineal at any weight, so on and so forth.

 

Well, if Floyd were to beat that guy on your avatar, then that just might silence the critics for once and for all.

 

Or a Saints Super Bowl win for New Orleans post-Katrina.

Yeah, I live there. WHO DAT?!

On-topic, my brain says Cotto but my heart is screaming "MANNNNYYYYY"