Oh my god, you actually took me serious when I said he was the best ever? Thank goodness Teeto got the joke and realized that statement was a reference to Bret Hart and Roy was obviously past prime when he fought Tarver and Johnson.
Sorry BB, but for me, here's numero uno: This content is protected Haha, Bret Hart is a legend though, outright.
Dude, you've said Norris beats Leonard prime for prime in the past. I thought you were joking that time, I was wrong. You're officially capable of believing anything as a result. Jones' ain't the best ever, and he doesn't beat everyone from 160 to 175 in history. What Spinks' fights have you seen?
Not yet mate. I'm being patient, but I'm sure they'll be here soon. Thanks for helping out my collection. That'll be why you have no say when it comes to Spinks vs Jones, however. You've seen three of his fights, and two of them were at Heavyweight against two of the best Heavies of the last 50 years.
Larry Merchant use to always ask how does a fighter prepare for Jones in the high weight classes and Manny Steward would simply say 'I don't know'. It's impossible to prepare for someone with that much speed and reflexes at those weight classes.:bbb
Not if you're Bob Foster though, the plan is always the same, ko. Kidding, as true as that is it's a **** way to debate. Spinks would be hard for Jones though. He might make Jones come to him, and Jones likes to fight, but the way Spinks can lure have you come forward then suddenly be throwing thudding powerful blows is a hard prospect for anyone at 175. I rate Jones very very highly h2h, but i can't just write off these guys. Spinks for me. But to be honest i'm not complaining.
I just think Spinks hits to hard at 175, and those awkward combination's he threw that came at all angles, nobody can avoid them all. Plus, Spinks stands at 6'3, was pretty huge for a Light Heavyweight. Slow starter, he'd lose the early rounds, but once he starts connecting, he could throw 5 and land 2, but Spinks has single shot power in both hands. I just see an inevitable knockout.
Benny, you are right once again. he is my pick as well, in the last 40 years and even another 15-20 before that
That's why you and Brooklyn and ACB were some of my favorite posters because you guys have the ability to look at things from the other side of the coin. Would you at least agree that Jones is unbeatable at 168, whether it's against the likes of Nunn, Eubank, Benn, Calzaghe etc....???
Believe me Rooster if Roy had just a couple of more names on his resume he would be my GOAT as well but then again it's a given Roy beats any fighter of his generation and the generations before that so overall he is the greatest h2h fighter of all time.
Thanks for the kind words BENNY. I don't really like using the term 'unbeatable' unless i'm kidding around, but i whole wheartedly see what you're saying. I'd pick him over anyone in that weight's history. This mightn't be favourable for you, but i actually think that Calzaghe Jones warrants more consideration than most do. But in the end, even though Calzaghe has never been stopped, i'd be betting on a Jones stoppage win.
I could tell by the time he was a contender where he was headed. And to all the others who ask "who did he beat that makes him great"? I say Roy dont have to beat no one else to make him great. he just is. That's how good he was