McCallum vs. Monzon

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have McCallum versus McCrory rolling from '88 on the VCR right now............. McCallum is totally schooling a still game McCrory on national TV............ McCallum was a very skilled man back in the late 80s..........

    I have NO DOUBT that Mike McCallum would find the smaller and less powerful "Naps & Griff" as somewhat easy pickens at 154 to 160 pounds............ McCallum was just too savy and cagey in 1987 / '88 to be denied or jacked around in the ring.............

    "Leonard, Hagler, Duran & Hearns" wanted NO PART of Mike McCallum in 1988..............

    "McCallum vs. Nunn" could've been sweet in '89.......... Too bad it never materialized.......

    McCallum was NO ***** at all.................

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  2. JohnThomas1

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    I'm anything but convinced McCallum would find Griffith and Napoles "easy pickens" at not only 160, but 154 as well :blood
     
  3. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I am in no way trying to insinuate McCallum was as proven great a fighter a Monzon. This is a head to head match-up.

    McCallum is as masterful a boxer as I've seen. The only thing that stops him from being better than anyone is his lack of speed. McCallum is decent to great in every other department.

    Monzon is do speed demon either. I don't see Monzon taking McCallum apart. Monzon is the same height, with a couple inches less reach. I really believe McCallum would be able to outpoint Monzon if given the opportunity.
     
  4. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Milton McCrory was not shot in 1988 but rather tired of boxing. As it was stated prior and during the fight with McCallum, McCrory was well trained and in great shape going into that fight in the spring of 1988...... But Mike McCallum was just so much superior at 154 pounds at the time...... McCrory was no push-over in the fight; he was there to win..... But McCallum was just too damn good, skilled, cagey & savy for the YOUNGER Milton McCrory.......... McCrory would've beaten a lot of mo-fo's on that day with McCallum......... Mike McCallum was NOT to be denied his claim to fame..........

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  5. PowerPuncher

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    Benevenuti and Napoles werent near the standard of MW that Toney was, the fact anyone is giving the Napoles win kudos really shows their ignorance, he was a lightweight midget with no wins over 147lbs.

    McCallum was past his best against Toney too and many had him beating Toney
     
  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I sure don't see McCallum doing very well with all those lead wide right hand leads he threw to the body against this opponent. And he threw a ton of them. Wide open to counters. He also held his left hand low and was right there to be hit by clean right hands. Plus, that McCallum power went downhill at 160 and those ko's became few and far between compared to 154.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    McCallum's wins over Curry/Taylor were every bit as good as he Napoles win in terms of beating up smaller opponents. Napoles came up from LW, was past prime at 33 (near 34) and never fought over the WW limit except while challenging Monzon, I see to remember he looked podgy to but I forget
     
  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Monzon. It would be close in the beginning but the longer the fight lasts the more obvious the class difference will be. McCallum was underated for a long time but now he is starting to get overated. He was a very good fighter, especially at 154, but he is more in the league of a Jones or a Toney and not of a Monzon.

    btw. I´d pick Benvenuti, Griffith, Valdez and Napoles to win 2 out of 3 against McCallum - with Napoles at 154 that is.
     
  9. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    monzon by split decision
     
  10. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was in good shape but then again Napoles only weighed 153 pounds for the fight. He looked tiny next to Monzon.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdkfMdaOjVQ[/ame]
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Like who exactly?

    McCory went life and death twice with Col Jones at 147 (some say he never did beat him), he was hardly going to cut a swathe thru 154. Have a look at him between Curry and McCallum, hardly earth shattering stuff. McCallum has enough substance on his record not to need nuthugging.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    Well do you or don't you agree with Buffalo Bill that these two would be easy pickens for McCallum? Easy pickens is the call.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    Depends on your definition of easy, boxing isnt easy, but I do think McCallum largely dominates the past prime versions Monzon faced before stopping both (maybe Griffith goes the 15/12)
     
  14. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCallum would dominate napoles relatively easy
     
  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Where did Bill or myself mention anything about past prime versions? Bill said at 154 and 160 full stop dude.