Ali 'phantom punch' slo-mo vs Liston

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  1. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This has probably been posted before, but hey, here's 'the phantom punch' in HD slo-mo.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxnGjKjxoo[/ame]
     
  2. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Difently conects and moves Liston's neck. If it were a dive Liston would not have gotten up and resumed fighting with Ali. Jersy Joe Walcot who was the refree stoped the fight after he was told that Liston did not beat the count by Nat Flaschier the founder and editor of the Ring Magizane.
     
  4. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    he must have the worst glass jaw in history to go down after that slap
     
  5. cubex

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    The punch landed but it wasn't anything big especially with Ali on the backfoot.

    Sonny took a dive.
     
  6. rainingbombs

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    I think it was genuine.
     
  7. jcrh22

    jcrh22 Active Member Full Member

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    It wasn't big, but caught him off guard due to angle and speed so could of knocked him down but I would of expected him to get up.

    He could of just given up though due to Ali beating him mentally prior to the fight and then that punch just being the icing on the cake.
     
  8. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    Well he probably said ''**** it'' after being knocked down altough he could have beat the count most likely.
     
  9. Dubstep

    Dubstep Active Member Full Member

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    It actually appears to be a fake right uppercut, turning into a right hook. It's actually a sensational punch.
     
  10. donizhere

    donizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i can see it landing cleanly on the chin,

    its like the seth petruzelli v kimbo,

    fedor emelienanko v arvolski fights right on the button

    "Authentic" knockdown.
     
  11. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Ali is shifting his body weight from back to front well. That is not a slap, that is a decent punch. Liston probably could have taken it better a year before, but he was probably a little discouraged by this time, yet that punch was a good punch I think.
     
  12. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    it looked legit up until liston starts rolling and supposedly had problems getting up. flash knockdown, i would believe. KTFO, a big no
     
  13. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he wanted to take a dive:

    A) Why did he not fall down from a more "obvious" punch? It would be silly to create controversy if it was in fact a dive.

    B) Why did he get up and fight on?
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    it obvioulsy wasn't a dive I can't believe this is even a debate
     
  15. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good punch. They should've allowed that fight to continue though. Liston beat the ref's count and both fighters were up and fighting eachother when the ref stopped the bout because he didn't beat the time keepers count.