Margarito - I hope he gets banned for Life

The only thing that can make that kind of mark or darkish area on that wrap is tape, you can explain and see the guaze inbetween the middle and ring finger, but that mark is clearly not gauze, gauze just doesnt look like that it looks like Tape and if it is tape that alone is illegal, you are not allowed to put tape over the knuckles cus it can make the gauze Rock like if done right, something I am confident Margarito wanted to do anyways.

 

so the whole 10-11 rounds, only damage done to lujans entire head was his ear?? the rest of his face looks fine for being hit with "loaded" gloves all night...
bad example

 

Yeah, you're right. **** it. We'll just ignore the fact that his ear is in pieces.

 

Fighters give you an area to land on not that they want you to hit them their, and sacrifice a part of the body to land their shot. AM missed with the left, and landed the right on Lujuan, AND he was the taller guy. This can also be seen as evidence of the use of plaster even in only one hand if other parts of his head/face weren't lumped up. It's hard to explain too lol... do I think AM cheated in the past-my opinion yes. Do i have proof-NO!

 

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Cotto and compmany are a bunch of cry babies. Pacs going to retire him tomorrow.

 

I bet you $2,000,000 Cotto doesn't retire tomorrow.

 

Done. I only have 1 mil though.

 

Let's clear this once and for all!

- there's no evidence whatsoever that Margarito actually used illegal wraps in other fights, and his hands were rewrapped for Mosley, so no evidence that he EVER used illegal wraps during a fight
- a torn wrap in a photo might be suspicious, but that's no hard evidence, hand wraps can be damaged during tough battles. Before each fight the other trainers and the local commission checked the wrappings and found no illegal pads, and signed the wraps as standard procedure for OK
- Cotto beat the crap out of Margarito before he gassed, then Margarito turned on the heat and threw many hard punches. Any guy with 160 pounds fight night and busy, heavy hands would've stopped that very tired Cotto
- Margarito probably doesn't know a crap about Nevada State Athletic Commission hand wrapping rules, neither have Superman eyes to analyze the chemical contents of the wraps
- notice that I don't comment whether Margarito knew or did not knew or had or did not have illegal wraps before, because WITHOUT HARD EVIDENCE, I DON'T KNOW!


Yet people would ban Tony for life based on scandal in the SHANE MOSLEY fight?

- Shane confessed taking EPO in court, although denying he knew what was he taking
- there's a sworn statement that Shane Mosley injected the material for himself, also, the physiological effects of the substance were explained to him. Do you seriously believe Shane, an athlete who attended many drug tests and as any top athlete heard about steroids, never asked what he was ordering and injecting into his own body? - then again, without hard evidence, I can't comment on that because I don’t know
- EPO can't be shown in a drug test a few weeks after using. Mosley only admitted the Oscar fight cheat, following you guys logic, should we assume he's guilty and used EPO for other fights, because he was just as fast, just as strong, just as good in stamina as in the EPO fight? - NO, I say let's not assume Margarito used illegal wraps in other fights and let's not assume Mosley used EPO in other fights, because we have no evidence

The huge difference between the two situations are
1) there's evidence of Mosley taking EPO (sworn statement) and there's no evidence of Margarito ever entering the ring with illegal wraps
2) the trainer did Margarito's wraps, Shane injected EPO himself
3) The American boxing media (the most influential in the world) crucified Margarito without evidence of actually entering a fight with illegal wraps whereas Mosley never got the same treatment. As typically, fans without the sense of impartiality and objectivity, are jumping on whatever comes from the tube
4) the California State Athletic Commission banned Margarito for ATTEMPTED cheating
5) the Nevada State Athletic Commission never banned Mosley or turned the DLH result into a DQ loss despite COMMITTED cheating with court evidence

I understand this is about Margarito, not Mosley, but then you should understand that Mosley is getting treated unfairly better for committed cheating, and people still jump on Margarito, which shows you how biased people can be - I actually blame the media for double standards, you guys just shouldn't fall for it. I have no problems with both guys fighting on, obviously both being checked regularly. But I have problems with people being inconsistent and biased with judgement.

 

No, I'm pretty sure I know what they did. They were pre-treated pads that they moisten right before they get inserted into the wraps. This way, they mold to the knuckles and slowly harden as the fight goes on. Of course if you put the pads on top and dried them before putting the gloves on, they would crumble and be painful and ineffective.

 

More Plaster of Paris users!!! EVIDENCE!!! atschatschatsch

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Cut, broken cheek, regular swelling, and black eyes.

Horrible example.

 

But what exactly would sodium & calcium - added with oxygen the contents of Plaster Of Paris - be doing on his hand-wraps? It's probably safe to say they aren't normally found on hand-wraps, and they didn't magically appear. And if Capetillo put them there, I find it hard to believe he never discussed it with Margarito, or Antonio never noticed in however-many-years as a pro what was going on, or never noticed it solidifying in the event that it was there in other fights.

 

Look. I'm not defending Margarito here, I'm defending or looking for impartiality and objective treatment. But for the sake of this conversation:

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The extra "pad" Capetillo used was described by Nazim Richardson as soft gauze with greasy material. Nobody other than Nazim (and that includes the CSAC) saw anything illegal, what Nazim was spotted was an extra pad (against the rules), and he noticed the greasy material only after he demanded to touch it. So why would Margarito notice that while Capetillo doing his wraps with a lot of layers and bandage, that that particular soft gauze shouldn't be there, it's illegal and it would harden during the fight? How would he know that? Wraps are simply cut down after the fight and thrown out in the trash, so I don't see Margarito noticing there either. We just don't know whether he knew or not.