Bert Sugar: Pacquiao is a Top-20 P4P All-Time Great

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's the video of Bert Sugar talking with Brian Kenny of ESPN (can't watch it via the embed):

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFUQdY6Fx_M[/ame]

    Sugar says Pac's victory tonight puts him on the same plane with the accomplishment of Henry Armstrong in 1938.

    Sugar has Armstrong as his #2 all-time-best pound-for-pound fighter.

    Sugar says he respects that Pac Man went into Cotto's punching wheelhouse yet still got the win. That is, Pac wasn't afraid to mix it up with a legitimate welterweight.

    Kenny agrees with what Sugar says.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I can't complain with top 20. He's not at the same plane with Armstrong though.
     
  3. RJD

    RJD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Same level as Leonard imo. A win against Mayweather and I'd have him above Duran. I haven't done a definitive list, but I have Duran hovering around the number 8 position with SRL just outside the top 10.
     
  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kenny asks Sugar if Pac is in the teens, so that gives you a sense of where Kenny sees him, same range that Sugar has him in.
     
  5. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not as a fighter, just his accomplishment of winning in so many different weight classes.
     
  6. NSX-R

    NSX-R Active Member Full Member

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    Damn, I can't see this video in Canada.
     
  7. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    How on earth do you have SRL OUTSIDE the top 10!? Who's in your top 10?
     
  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry about that. ESPN sucks :(
     
  9. cris3000

    cris3000 Active Member Full Member

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    Haha Bert Sugar, this guy doesnt even have Pernell in top50. Nor Leonard in top 25...
     
  10. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That fact that such a modern ERA HATER like Sugar has pacman TOP 20...makes you KNOW PACMAN is top 10
     
  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, that is some sad sh*t. I didn't know that.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, Bert Sugar is a ****-head.

    I'd see Pac as top 25 now.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Pacquiao can cement a top 10 spot if he beats Mayweather.... caution tho, Mayweather is at least a good level better than Cotto, I still pick FMJ in that fight but Pacquiao certainly has given me more doubt, fabulous victory over Cotto, stunning.
     
  14. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, I favor FMJ as well.