True or False: Floyd needs Pac more than Pac needs Floyd?

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  1. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    YES and its clear now more than ever.

    Marquez was left standing against a bigger opponent in PBF.
    Pacman left Cotto with such a beat down it made his win against Cotto look like something ive never seen before.

    I mean he dropped early and was totally out for a war he wanted to exchange and were PBF even with Marquez wanted no part of anything like that.

    PBF needs Pacman otherwise he he gets fights against maybe Hatton again or he would be forced to face Cotto or even Mosley.
     
  2. Vengeance

    Vengeance Certified Headhunter Full Member

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    Indisputably true. If you look at Mayweather's record, all his toughest fights, all his career-defining fights were at the lower weights. Ever since moving up to 147, Floyd has fought a carefully-picked list of title-holders and have taken the easiest road to success. The path of least resistance. All true boxing fans know this. Even Floyd's biggest fans know it, but will likely not admit it.

    Pac doesn't need Floyd nearly as much. His ATG status is already cemented, and although I'd like to say the same for Floyd's ATG status, but he really hasn't fought the elite at 147. Pacquiao just destroyed the guy that Floyd chose to not to fight and instead chose retirement.. even though Floyd knew there was big $$$ in a Cotto fight.. nuff said. Floyd needs this fight.
     
  3. Jeff the Bear

    Jeff the Bear New Member Full Member

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    It's a difficult one to judge, as on the face of it, yes Floyd 'needs' Pac mroe than vice verser. However, it's not as straightforward as that. Say for instance they did have a fight, and Floyd comfortably held Pacman and used his greater weight and reach advantage to a win...it'd literally do nothing for his legacy as people will just say 'Well the bigger guy beat the little guy' instead of saying 'The number 1/2 p4p champoin beat the other contender for the title'.

    In that regard, Floyd really really doesn't need Pac as regards to his legacy he has everything to lose, and not a lot to gain.
     
  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    "In order to be the man you must beat the man."

    That's simply not true. Maybe that applies to the lineal title within a givin weight class, but what you say has RARELY been the case historically.
     
  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Pac is the man right now, especially after tonight.... I have always liked Mayweather, but will lose a great deal of respect for him if he does not fight Pac.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell yeah -- that's what's up! I'll go check it!
     
  7. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Yeah but PBF never did that either.
     
  8. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's so true, right now Pacquiao's resume is probably the best in the sport, he doesn't NEED anyone now, Mayweather however, has much left to prove. There's no doubt he is immensely talented, but thats not nearly enough, he needs to seek out the best available competition & stop arsing about with his ridiculous demands.
     
  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Mayweather has to fight him now, honestly I don't know who would win.
     
  10. MasterFlo

    MasterFlo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope. Mostly because he would have had to beat RJJ. Beating the man means almost nothing in terms of p4p.
     
  11. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    Pac fight i pay to see, Floyd i watch the reruns
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    They'll survive without each other. Boxing fans won't though! LOL
     
  13. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Pac vs. Mayweather would be a new age Duran vs. Leonard..... this fight must happen.
     
  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And thats the bottom line right there.


    You want to sum up PBF.

    The fact is i and many others watch him on the net at ****** TV.

    Actually we should name him streamweather

    I have got or seen by paying Pacman last 5 fights