Pacquaio on "performance enhancement drugs"..

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  1. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    Steroids do not make the fighter that Pacquaio is today.

    All doping would do would allow him to train harder, and get in some better condition. They won't instantly make him faster or stronger, or more importantly, a better boxer.

    Drugs or not Pacquaio is a GREAT boxer.
    I couldn't care less if he is on something, but I highly doubt it to be honest, this has never come up since the Mayweathers brought it up.

    Steroids in boxing are one of the least effective methods of "cheating" which is why there is no real strict or often testing. Physical condition is only a minor equation of a much bigger picture in boxing, it isn't like sprinting or weightlifting where it DIRECTLY affects capabilities, which is where it is more stringent.

    So stop buying into rumours and hearsay!
     
  2. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree, performance-enhancing drugs have an application in practically every sport. Even a golfer got busted a few years ago...

    but regardless, mayweather's a huge hater and obviously can't stand how great Pac is so he just makes **** up with no basis.

    it's unbelievable, why dont people make comments on someone like shane who actually has a history of it instead of pac who's been nothing but clean his entire career.

    haters man, haters. **** 'em. BTW I think that ****** cintron made a comment about it too. what a ****ing fool, he must be crying now since his countryman got ****ed up.
     
  3. rinnyc

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    Agree with you on this 100%. Can't believe anyone would give this even a second thought considering that's it this moron (Floyd Sr.) who started this rumor.
     
  4. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well lots of boxers have been busted doing steroids, like Roy Jones, James Toney, Vitali Klitschko, its a part of boxing I guess.

    But so far there is no proof Pac cheated, although to me there is somethign very fishy about how Pac couldnt floor featherweights and lightweights yet can move up and floor these big guys so easily.
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    What's with all these "Manny is on steroids" threads?

    Is is the 'lets pull random nonsense out of our arses and start a thread about it day' :think
     
  6. tomhighway

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    **** Mayweather and his despicable smear campaign.
     
  7. Hadrian

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    my honest opinon: Pac is on steroids...and so are about 95% of all professional athletes..anyone look at an NBA game from sooo long ago like say 1986? Those guys look like sticks comparatively....and yes virginia robert parish and bill laimbeer and james worthy lifted plenty of weights ---so have we evolved so quickly or are all ro sports totally entrenched in PED. That said, i suspect there are different levels of use/abuse----perhaps the guys who get noticed are the ones who are really altering their natural self dramatically. But IMO it is an epidemic and whether or not PAC does it doesn't really change too much.
     
  8. rainingbombs

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    I think it is the Adamek dilemma all over again.

    Pac COULD fight at lower weight classes but he really belongs to 135-140. Now that there is no one to beat at that weight he goes for 147.
     
  9. Triplesod

    Triplesod Drunk& pissed up on booze Full Member

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    Bit of a snide thing to do, use a title like that, innit?
     
  10. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, it's the same damn thing.

    People get confused when little guys beat up bigger guys, and the first thing they do is blame steroids.
     
  11. Triplesod

    Triplesod Drunk& pissed up on booze Full Member

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    Not true. No one was blaming steroids on Haye's win. If anything, most people had a small speculation that it had something to do with the Boogie.
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Of course they "can" have any application in almost any scenario. But PED's by default dont intrinsically then make you a better fighter. The accusations about Manny doping are completely baseless and should be directed back to the gutter where these accusations belong.
     
  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A former friend of Adamek said he was on them though mate. I agree with the guy who says that they are all on them and quite frankly of course steroids are a major factor in a boxers performance if he is taking them but most of the top guys are so if Pac man is he is only doing what his last four or five opponents were probably doing anyway.
     
  14. Hadrian

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    exactly my point. Pac may or may not use/abuse more...but how come lebron james has the exact same amount of muscle at the end of an 82 game regular season + playoffs + greulling practice sessions? The NFL--don't make me laugh--350lb men running 4.7 40s? c'mon the biggest lie in sport is PED. THEY ALL DO THEM, or at least allowing for a few saints, 95% do them. It is stupid and wrong and pointless since they'd all be great without them and one needle cancels out the other...but there it is.
     
  15. Lionel Rose

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    How can a guy increase his weight by fully TWO / TWO AND A HALF STONE in his twenties - when he was perfectly fit at the lower weight - without the assistance of steroids?
    And we're not talking about a naturally big middle / super middle / cruiser type of man moving up through the weights, a la Roy Jones / Evander Holyfield / James Toney, whose steroid use was easier to mask, due to their starting weights.
    No, this is a guy who has fought at maturity i.e. fully developed 8st 10lbs, now carrying 10st 5lbs on his frame comfortably.
    I acknowledge Pacquaio as the consumate fighting machine he undoubtedly is, but if he has attained this new poundage 'on the level' I'd be very surprised.
    All of which means that, arguably, Cotto's two defining defeats were both perpetrated at the hands of cheats!



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