Pound-for-Pound, Manny Pacquiao is the greatest fighter since Pernell Whitaker.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl I think that lady is the only person that Manny can't beat !

 

danny, danny.

why do you keep on hating on our man.

you sound like a scorned ***** just like your idol.

now, i have some sturdy rope here. can you find a sturdy tree by which to hang yourself.

you have been getting owned by popkins here.

 

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Been reading through this thread. You people really love your fighters huh? Im sure they appreciate your support. They should be paying you a percentage of their purse the way you defend their honour.:good

 

Morales has far greater consistency than Toney. His wins over Pacquiao & Barrera is greater than that of Toney's wins over Nunn & McCallum. Add to that Morales has much better strings of solid victories in comparison to Toney and I think its clear, Morales is ahead. You can argue for Toney, but its a weak one to start with.

Morales>>Toney
MAB>Toney

 

Yeah we're definitely in agreement mate. I do personally think of Hopkins as a better fighter than both Barrera and Marquez but that's not even what this is about. Like you say, at the time the Barrera and Marquez wins were massive.

You're right in that Barrera was number 3 at the time, i remember it clear. Marquez as well but that was more of a subjective and opinion based one as i remember, but he was one of the most solid shouts for the spot. If you had him beating Pac first time round and then John and staying unbeaten on that run then you could argue number 2 i'd say. That stuff's all subjective though.

On Hopkins, well i agree again that the very best was yet to come, wasn't far away though. The man's still absolute quality now and for me it boils down to him just being essentially a lot better than the majority of what is out there.

When i've pondered back over history though i've always found that Hopkins' defence was more than adequate even back in the early days of his 160 title reign. Even when he was on offense like in that dismantling of Glen Johnson, he had it down. He'd be brutally runing guys against the ropes to body and head, staying technically proficient all the while and not exposing his chin throughout. Just class.

 

It's kind of a toss up for me between Manny and Roy....I might have to go with Manny tho by a little.

 

Yeah, it's another quality achievement for the CV if he beats Adamek, don't bet against Bernard there. Dawson would be more difficult though, i'd probably favour him at present.

Anyway it's gunna have to be sleep time, up early, speak to you later mate

 

Take my post apart? I eat bitches like you for breakfast. Bring it *******.:yep

BHop and Toney accomplished alot more in their careers then either Barrera or Marquez. And only Marquez deserves to be mentioned with them in terms of skill.

BErnard Hopkins was not green when he fought Roy JOnes. He had in excess of 20 fights and would go on to dominate the middleweight division with hoards of KO's. Toney was prime p4P and rated number 2 in the world. Both are far higher quality wins then Pacs.

Not too mention, ROy Jones destroyed and humiliated both Toney and Hopkins. Beating Hopkins 1 handed. Pac barely squeaked out a victory against Marquez and was beat up at the end.

Roy was clean from head to toe after both fights, proving how superior a boxer he was to pac in his prime.

Duran was shot and done as a fighter. Toney was prime, and Hopkins was as close to prime as a young fighter could be.

You really are one dumb muther****er. Stop saying stupid **** because you think it proves a point.

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Ruiz was a world champion who beat Holyfield, Golota, and Rahman. He certainly wasnt the best heavy, but he was a good scalp and Roy was outweighed on the night by close to 30lbs. I rate it above anything Pac has done since he was a super featherweight except for Cotto.

No small man has ever jumped 40lbs you jackass. At best Pac has jumped 33 lbs. About the same as Roy Jones from middle to heavy, except Roy did it against a guy who weighed 30lbs more then him. Pac did it against 5'6 Miguel Cotto lol.

There is a reason why there has ever been 2 guys to go from middleweight to heavy and win a title in the last 100 years. How many little men have jumped multiple weights. Duran, Whitaker, De La Hoya, Mayweather, all did it with pretty much ease.
That's a perfectly standard size disparity between two heavys, because size means less as you go up. Try putting a 120lbs man in with a 140lbs man - and you'd see a horrible mismatch and early execution.

David Diaz was a scrub who went life and death with a shot JEsus Chavez floyd beat a decade ago.

Pretty much a worse champion then any champion on Roy Jones Jr's resume.

[quote[Hatton was p4p#5 back in '07. He was the consensus world number 1 at light-welterweight when Pacquiao foughwitt him. Other than Hopkins & Toney (which are easily outnumbered by Pac's wins over HOF comp), how many people did Roy beat that were as good as Ricky?[/quote]


Uhh Virgil HIll? Mike Mccallum? Antonio Tarver. Montell Griffin. Gonzalez. Fuuuck pick one.

Floyd had already destroyed Hatton as a fighter. He got a shaky decisionf against a faded Lascano, and beat feather fisted Paulie Malignaggi. Add his weight problems and it wasnt that good a win. We saw Hattons shaky beard against Lascano and Paulie. A beating by Floyd would do that to you.

Not by those who know boxing. Toney was superior to both Barrera and MOrales in boxing ability. The fact that he's still a viable heavyweight proves this. MOrales was shot when Pac beat him. And its telling that a faded Morales gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson. Barrera was a good win, but he never accomplished nor was ever as good as Toney

McCallum had just been lightheavyweight champ in 05 at light heavyweight jackass. And would go on to lose a close D to Toney right after he fought Roy who schooled him

Hill definitely makes Hof. Tarver maybe. Thats atleast 5 Hofers on Roys resume. How many on Pacs that he fought even close to prime? Barrera? Hatton? Marquez?

Thats about it.

Show me where I expressed hate towards Pac in any post. You're just a delusional Pac dick sucker.

Rofl! Roy Jones clowned Bhop, Toney, McCallum, and Hill. Pac struggled with a shot Morales and Marquez lol

I love Pacman. I love watching him fight. ITs ***gots like you and the *******s who nobody stand. Dont worry, Money may is gonna bring you down to reality.

 

Thanks for proving my point that Toney was far greater scalp then either Barrera or a shot Morales. You arent a total ****** after all.


The only thing Barrera and Morales have on Toney is consistency. But ****, Duran was inconsistent, doesnt mean he's not one of the greatest fighters of all time. Again its who you beat. And Toney beat better, far superior fighters then either Morales or Barrera.

 

Ask him to visit the Castillo thread where I clowned your punkass. Ask him if Castillo won round 3

 

How was Pea a better fighter? In terms of domination in prime they are neck and neck. Just because a little ****** like you says PEa was better doesnt mean anything. He accomplished more, beat better fighters. But better fighter all around in P4P terms? Get real child

I've seen most of Peas fights. Haugen, Ramirez, Chavez of course, Mcgirt X2. Dont make accusations *** boy.