Liston's resume and ranking

Okay, but explain me how do you compare it? It´s too much speculation.

 

its the fear that fighters have of other fighters ie the fear a lot of mike tyson's opponents had of him.
reputations
by the way i ,personally dislike the word resume

 

True, but also after Patterson had suffered crushing back-to-back first round KOs.

But he also found time to fight the guy who had blasted out Machen in 1 round - three times.

The fight had previously been on the table before Liston won the title, and Liston turned down a $100,000-plus guarantee to fight him in Sweden.

 

i've already given you examples of fighters who were more feared.louis and liston are two

when i boxed ,i always preferred to know next to nothing about my opponents,so i'd have less to fear.
it worked for me,even though i never ammounted to much

 

Given that Liston twice quit against a young, fragile looking loudmouth, i'm not sure whether taking his "fear factor" into account would be a good thing, at all.

He also seems to get a pass on blatantly cheating with that blinding stuff against Clay. Probably because of the embarrassing fashion in which he lost.

 

where've you read that ??

 

who was the young,fragile loudmouth ??
liston put plenty of fear into his opponents before he fought for the title.

 

I dont really rate it. It's based on too much speculation anyway.

Mike Tyson was great (to some extent) because he knocked out some good fighters, in my book. Not because someone was afraid of him.

Yeah, resume is gay.

 

It's not at all blatant or clear that he cheated at all. Purely another "tale" or rumour surrounding the fights.

 

Tell me how many fights in history show this? A guy being in comfortable control to constantly blinking and indicating that there's something in his eyes? And in the other corner, there's a guy with mob connections of whom there are rumors of earlier fixed fights (even in SI), who realizes he underestimated his opponent, needs help, then when that fails, he quits? You think that's a coincidence?

 

joe louis frightened a lot of his opponenents.max baer and king levinsky epecially.
levinsky had to be pushed into the ring kicking and screaming

 

mob connections aren't exactly rare, are they ??

 

But that´s not an explanation how you compare it. It´s just an individual thing if someone is intimidated by somebody or not. Personally, I think the Ali who punished Patterson for callim him Clay would intimidate me much more than Liston or Tyson - although all of them would intimidate me to tell the truth
It´s just too much speculation.

Good for you :good

 

I place him quite high as his resume does have some good names, in the same tier as Marciano, Frazier and Holmes, and I rate him in my top 5 all time H2H HW fighters. He posted two first round KO's over a prime top 20 ATG heavyweight. His two demolition jobs over Patterson are exceptionally impressive and are probably the most one sided destructions one prime ATG heavy has over another.

 

yes.they'd intimidate me too.