This proves Pac is better than Duran/Hearns/Leonard/Hagler

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  1. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    margarito win was suspicious. are you telling me margarito only cheated once in his career, i very much doubt that. pac beat the guy that beat mosley, its not a far stretch in saying cotto is the best welter. cotto has a better resume than floyd at welter.
     
  2. coupdegrace

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    Wow, is that u bernie? lol
     
  3. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    They might have said it was because he was 38, but the fact Shane had a title makes it more legit. It showed he fought well to get the title and he did by stopping Antonio. That is why the knockout of Duran by Hearns was legit in my mind. Duran won the WBA title and Hearns had the WBC. It was a unification, yet the WBA stripped Duran. Duran by the way was 32 years old then when he fought Hearns. Most people seem to want to think he was 42.
     
  4. MAG1965

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    And Cotto was not the guy who everyone thought Manny should fight. Not me anyway. Shane was more of a natural fight between two great fighters. I don't think anyone in years to come would complain that Pacman beat Shane, but didn't fight Cotto.
     
  5. MAG1965

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    Yes Margarito's win was suspicious, yet nothing can be proven. All they have is one picture of a torn handwrap. They know he had something in his glove for Shane, but the Cotto one is just guessing. Do I think he used it for Cotto? I don't know. Maybe since they said this insert was already used. But fact is that Margarito stopped Cotto, and Shane stopped Margarito. the Cotto win over Shane was a decision, which is a win, but it was not a clear demolition. And Cotto was undefeated then. I think in the head to head comparisons Shane comes out ahead by beating Margarito, and then you add on his resume which is top notch. The names on Shane's resume are no worse than the names on Pacman's resume.
     
  6. artofwar

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    cotto beat shane fair and square. they wanted to see pac against a prime elite welter and cotto ticks all those boxes. this victory is huge.
     
  7. Totomabs

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    exactly my thoughts.:lol: times have really changed.:yep
     
  8. DON1

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    PAC is an All time great but dont even try tell me he is better than any of those dudes!
    Any of those dudes would have put Cotto on a stretcher and alot earlier than Pac did. Those guys are all all time greats and they were taking chunks out of each other when they were all in their prime. They wern't fighting for IBO titles either, ****ing the cream da la crem.
    This is why Pacturds get ****ing mauled on the forums cos they come out with ****in BS. they due is great but he is no way greater than these dues. **** that.
     
  9. MAG1965

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    It was a good victory, but not huge. Come on. Pacman fought a guy who had fought only 2 times since being beaten up by Margarito. Cotto is not prime, he is elite in name, yet if he is not prime anymore, that takes a little of the elite off his title also. Yeah Cotto beat Shane fair, but Shane demolished the guy who beat Cotto decisively. I will say this. If you gave Pacman the choice to have beaten Cotto or Mosley. Do you really think he would have picked Cotto over a fellow Hall of Fame fighter?
     
  10. Main Events

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    Do you know how much BS did these *******s posted at these forums? Here are examples.

    Pac will fight ODLH, Hatton, and Cotto and he will come out victorious and almost unscathe. That is as BS as you can get in this forum a year or so ago. Does not look too BS now, does it?
     
  11. coupdegrace

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    :blurp hope roach decides to have a game plan for shane and soon pac sign a contract vs shane so some people would stop quack quacking.
     
  12. MAG1965

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    If Pacman stopped Shane I would be very impressed. I am impressed with his win over Cotto. Not that he beat Cotto, but that he took the punches and absorbed power from a good hitting welterweight and then came back and overwhelmed him with speed. It is impressive, but the win was predictable. But beating Shane would be beating a guy who is strong/experienced/uses a game plan and would work the body consistently in a way no one else could with Pacman. Shane would invest body punches and his stamina would stay strong. As for bodypunching, That would be the key to beating Pacman for Mosley.
     
  13. MAG1965

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    Roach is a good trainer, but to be honest Pacman would be beating all these guys with another trainer.
     
  14. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Pac is great but greater than those 4???!

    I wouldn't say so.
     
  15. Breakdown

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    I give him props. He is taking boxing to where it used to be.