This proves Pac is better than Duran/Hearns/Leonard/Hagler

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  1. zicas

    zicas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The **** are you talking about. Duran lost against these bigger guys but still gave them hell (except Hearns). Hagler is a middleweight for ****'s sake! Duran still went 15 rounds with him.
    Duran has 70 KOs with over 100 wins. We all love Pacquiao and all but keep it ****in real.
     
  2. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Of course those guys would have beaten Cotto, but two of them were natural welters, one was a natural lightweight and one was a natural middleweight. Would Duran have beaten a light heavyweight that was on the same level as Cotto? Probably not.

    Anyway, the head to head comparison doesn't really work since Pacquiao is naturally a much smaller guy than those fighters.

    On the other hand, the # of belts argument doesn't really work either. It's about the competition that was beaten and where the fighter was at the appropriate stage in his career when he did so.

    I haven't done a real close analysis yet, but at the very least, Pacquiao is clearly above Hearns. He's probably a hair ahead of Leonard, about on par with Hagler and a hair behind Duran, but all of that is really semantics at this point. And based on what was seen this weekend, I suspect a lot of people would pick Pacquiao to beat Duran head to head at welterweight.
     
  3. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonsense. Leonard is a better fighter, with a better resume, whose four biggest wins were fighters that would stand Manny and any of his opposition on their heads.
     
  4. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow...you have Hagler ahead of Leonard??

    Shocked!!!!!!
     
  5. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rank Pacquiao above Hagler and Hearns...However, Leonard and Duran are still greater. A win over Mayweather would level up things.
     
  6. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Freddie Roach has even said Pac isn't as good as his favorite fighter of all time....Duran. This thread is over board :patsch
     
  7. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he didn't give them hell. Hearns starched him like he was beating on a little kid, and SRL absolutely toyed with him and humiliated him when he decided to fight using his own style instead of Duran's. Benitez had absolutely no problems with him and the Hagler fight? He gets all these props just for not getting knocked out by Hagler? The dude hardly EVER made the LW limit even when he was a lightweight, came in about 5 lbs over about half the time.

    Duran is the second most overrated fighter in history, next to Pryor.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Nar
     
  10. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go kill yoself...
     
  12. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Are people comparing Miguel Cotto to Roberto Duran?
     
  13. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Teeto I love you as you can normally see both sides of the argument...but even a pacifist such as yourself has got to agree that the general has gone mad now!!!!
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Pac is top 50 in my book...
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Am I the only one with my mouth wide open in disbelief after reading some of this trash?

    Pacquiao outpointing Hagler? Is that ****in' dude serious?