Liston's resume and ranking

That Liston's own cornerman said it was deliberate on Liston's part is pretty damaging, though.

 

People say all sorts of things as years pass, but did Liston's cornerman even say it ?
I've heard this before, but the only thing I've ever seen/read is that sportswriter Jack McKinney claims Joe Pollino, one of Liston's corner, told him that he (Pollino) had juiced the gloves.
It's "a guy told another guy" stuff, if I remember rightly.
There are SEVERAL of those types of stories that indicate Liston threw both fights too. And a million other rumours. Second-hand hearsay.
Unless I missed the horse's mouth stuff ?

 

Pollino said it himself on ESPN Classic.

 

I haven't seen that. What was it called ?

 

Bingo! :good

If they fought in '61, it wouldn't have been for the title.

 

I would love to see Joe Pollino actually talking about it on ESPN classic, if he did so.

 

Liston did eventually go to Sweden, and fought for Ingemar Johansson (who was involved in the promotion, if i remember rightly), around 1966 or '67.

 

It was a show about the fight. I think it's their "Greatest fight series". They run and rerun them continuosly. It's very often Ali fights, most often Manilla but also Clay-Liston. But this was the first time I saw Pollino. Surprised me. Don't think he elaborated much. Just said that it had been done.

 

How recently was the show made ?
I'm surprised Pollino is still alive.

This is from 1989. Dundee seems to think it was innocent.

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Liston and Johansson made a better deal for more money to fight in Canada but the match-up was ruined by NBA.

 

I saw it just a couple of months ago, but I don't know how old the show is. Some of them were made pretty long ago.

I know Dundee thought it was innocent.

 

Tyson's chin was questionable, yes. But most of his opponents got their hands full defending themselves against Tyson's powerpunching. Buster Douglas wasn't a big powerpuncher, but left Tyson crawling around on the floor searching for his gumshield.

You are exagerating if you say that Patterson got KDed because of being offbalanced. Patterson got great footwork and speed, but couldn't take a decent punch to the button.

 

:-(

 

Do people sneeze at the Patterson wins simply because of their low degree of difficulty for Sonny? If anything the way he did what he did to the Lineal champion should guarantee a pretty high ranking regardless of how the rest of his resume looks.

That's pretty badass dedication...but what was the scientific purpose exactly? Liston didn't really seem to make much use of the muscles below his quads and his footwork consisted of digging in to push Floyd out of clinches and then rushing forth to bomb away. :huh