What Makes you think Manny will do better than JMM against Floyd?

You're absolutely correct......

.....you saw the 1st round of Cotto-Pac....it was looking there for a moment that if Cotto was going to school Pacquiao......unfortunately for him, he did'nt have the dicipline to stick to a boxing game plan.

I guarantee you, if Mayweather starting seeking Pacquiao like Cotto did after the 1st round, he'd get bloodgeoned as well......

.......but when has Mayweather ever advanced and been aggressive against anyone??????


It aint happening my friend.....Mayweather will circle his left, jab Pacquiao with his much longer reach.....and bounce right hands off Pacquiao everytime Pacquiao lunges to try to find Mayweather with his left.

......repeat process, round after round.....because there not a damn thing Pacquiao is going to be able to do about it.

Simply stated.....Mayweather has alot of the same pedigree in technical skills that JMM has, plus he has a longer reach, is quicker and faster of both hand and foot.
......and its ingrained in Mayweather's boxing soul not to get into anymore than a 3 punch combination affair with the likes of anyone thats a danger to him.

.......what does it spell?
It spells literally Manny Pacquiao looking like a complete rank amatuer trying in vain to find Floyd.


I've only been vehemently and secure with my picks over Pacquiao twice in his career.....and those were the Marquez fights......knowing full well of Marquez' counterpunching pedigree.....

I am doubly more confident that Mayweather will embarass Pacquiao!

Pacquiao is a whirlwind.....a great destroyer.....but he just cant deal with an elite type of boxing pedegree.
His fights with a past prime JMM prove that.

A prime Mayweather will embarass Pacquiao. Bank on it!

Somebody in this forum has told me that Pacquiao has already opened as a favorite over Mayweather.
If thats true, I'm laying a couple grand on Mayweather over Pacquiao.

Money in the bank!deal:deal

 

See, I told you so!!!

Kilometer long dissection of pure intelligence. I just wish that his batting average is as good as his discussion genius.

 

While I favor Mayweather in the Pac match, I certainly wouldn't go off definitive about it. Pac was a far better fighter in his second fight with JMM than he was in the first. He's a far better fighter now than he was in that second fight. Mayweather is older now and of course he looks great against a slow unnaturally bulked up 36-year-old who was pushing it in his two great but dangerous fights at 135 when meeting at 144 and 146. Sure, he looked good. But this is a different story.

 

Gameplans....you gotta hurt Pac real bad to discourage him. If you're not hurting him, you will get caught sooner or later. Floyd hurt pac?? gotta be kidding me:rofl

Out run him maybe, but once he tastes Pacs power, you'll be shouting at him for not following the gameplan! The plan changes when Pac gets to his rhythm.:good

Now to the thread. JMM will be taken out, and it wont be pretty. PAC has serious power in this weight.

 

We've only seen JMM above that weight against Mayweather....the best p4p boxer in the world.

Certainly as a Welter, Pacquiao has the speed that makes it difficult for fighters like Hatton, DLH, and Cotto to deal with.

Its been proven......you have to box Pacquiao to beat him.......those guys are not at the level of Marquez and Mayweather as far as technical boxing ability is concerned.

I'm not saying that Marquez at his age now would beat Pacquiao at welter.....
....but because of his boxing ability, his style is more suited to have a better chance to beat Pacquiao at Welter, that to beat the very guy that Pacquiao just beat, Miguel Cotto.

Styles make fights, and even at his age now, Marquez would still give Pacquiao fits at any weight.

 

Well put.

 

at 130lbs, JMM has the speed to counter pac effectively...at 135lbs, JMM already lost some of that speed thats why he had difficulty with old grandpa casa and a slow b-level fighter juan diaz...at 144lbs he has slowed significantly against mayweather...

at 140-147lbs pac will be too fast for him and he would get KTFO, take it to the bank....:deal

 

If Pac has serious power at Welter, why did'nt he lay out Cotto who does'nt have the best chin is boxing????

Pac has power at 145 lbs, but serious power????
The power he had as a featherweight????

I dont think so......if Pac would have hit Cotto with those type of shots at 126 lbs, believe me, Cotto would have been out like Hatton!


The way I see it, Pac's power is legit at Welter......but his sucess does'nt come so much from his power than his speed and angles of which he throws his punches.

 

Even at 130 lbs, Marquez did'nt look like a world beater.
He's the type of fighter that has to work to wear down an opponent......

It reminds me of how people discredited Evander Holyfield as he was coming up the Heavyweight ranks in a campaign to meet Tyson......

.....people discredited Holyfield's chances because he was'nt laying fighters out like Tyson......Holyfield had to work and grind down opponents before stopping them......very much the way Marquez worked against Casa and Diaz......

It never changes, people not in the know always believe that fighters knocking people out are better than fighters who go through a sytematic process to get the same result.....yet there are tons of examples throughout history to say thats not true.

Tyson after prison demolishes Frank Bruno in brutal fashion........Holyfield looks less than spectacular against Bobby Czyz....and all of a sudden Tyson is supposed to lay out Holyfield.....
People were predicting that Holyfield would be taken out on a stretcher......


What happened?????

Will and skill, beat speed, brute force, and power!yep


I have no reason to believe that Marquez, like Holyfield would'nt rise to the occasion (especially against his true peer Manny Pacquiao) and put up another great performcance.

 

I think so too.