Why Did Cotto Lose?

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  1. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    cotto didn't lose, manny won. anyone who doesn't give manny credit for this victory is a ****ing moron. the people who voted cotto's mental weakness or green corner, etc. have no clue what they're talking about. cotto came into this fight in the best shape of his life and he fought the best he could. the fact is that manny is an absolute monster and i would pick him to destroy just about anyone at this point. cotto is still a great fighter and i fully expect him to become a champion once again. he lost to an ATG. so ****in what?
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    watching it for the umpteenth time

    it looked like Cotto was discouraged after the 4th, even though it looked like he may have won the 5th it was evident that Cotto realized he cannot bully Pac and knew he was not going to win this.
     
  3. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    i'd say pac's speed and power
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    "Mental weakness'' ...Give me a break. Please. Better yet, give yourself a break. You're inviting people to mock you.
     
  5. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    1. Pacquiao Handspeed
    2. Pacquiao Power
    3. Pacquiao Footwork/Lateral Movements
    4. Pacquiao Punch Angles
    5. Pacquiao Punch Resistance (he ate the best body shot cotto gave, but pac just ignored them)

    6. Cotto's corner (jab,jab,jab? WTF Joe! You should have stopped the fight at 9. You just ruined Cotto's career!)


    Hats off to Cotto. BIG HEART!!!
     
  6. fundador

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  7. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the game plan.

    just like hatton, they thought the way to beat pac, was bullying him and showing your stronger. The problem with this is, that pac is too fast to be dominated with aggression and strength.

    the recipe for beating pac, was outlined by marquez. Make pac over commit and lunge in and then counter. Thats also the reason why i see mayweather being the one to beat pac.
     
  8. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    This....Cotto for some reason fought Pac's fight in the middle of the ring and tried to brawl against a much quicker volume puncher. Had he stuck to the jab and fought like he did in the first couple rounds, the outcome might've been different. Pacquiao can be outboxed and that is the key - this is why I still believe Mayweather will beat Pac by UD.
     
  9. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    cotto lost this fight because he no longer is that beast that would stalk you and go thru your punches...his punch resistance is gone after the marg fight similar to the way that mosley knocked out marg cuz his punch resistance wasnt there after eating bombs for the first seven rounds of the cotto fight....he is menatlly scarred and i think that everytime some leather lays on him he actually becomes scared...i love cotto but he needs to retire after an awful showing against jennings and clottey and a awful but brave showing against pac who he did nothing to but be a punching bag...pac was open all night and he didnt throw punches....
     
  10. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you really think that cottos corner didnt have someting to do with this...u must be the ****ing moron....please tell me what helpful insight they had besides saying asi asi and im gonna give you 1 more round....wtf are u talking about...his mental is scarred point blank...cotto is not the same beast he was when he beat zab and mosley...margarito ****ed up this dudes mental as he is scared of punches now and he just doesnt throw enough punches like he used...he brings them wide and he is always open for counters...congrats to pac for the win but this fight was talor made for him.....keep thinking 2 pounds didnt hurt cotto to
     
  11. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cotto could have had any cornermen and he would still have lost just as badly. pac is on a different level to cotto in every area that's why he lost, and that goes for every other boxer too, with the exception of mayweather. pac has lost maybe 1 or 2 rounds in his last 4 fights and there's a reason for that.
     
  12. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    because manny is simply just a different animal
     
  13. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    i also read in an interview that cotto also said that "he wasn't able to see pac's punches" too (same thing with what hatton have said in the past)... those punches from different angles are realy hard to deal with.
     
  14. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I couldn't resist the "The Lord aka God Is A Manny Pacquiao Fan" option :lol: But really, I think all options played a factor in the fight, the primary reason for me aside from Pacquiao's skills was his physical ability to move out of harms way during exchanges and counter Cotto fast and hard right on the button. I guess The Lord played favorites when blessing Manny Pacquiao :D
     
  15. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lack of speed and defense from cotto.....plus manny's speed...

    I really thought cotto had some leaky defense in there....