Freddie Roach: "I want the (Mayweather) fight at 145"

True, but they lost the same amount of weight. Cause like he said Floyd weighed in at 151 and they said he dropped weight on fight night.

 

Anyone who says Pac doesn't need PBF is really saying they don't want Pac to get a boxing lesson and they don't want the fight to happen.:deal Both fighters need each other.

 

Even looking at those guys, no one chastises them for not dropping down TWO weight classes and bypassing a division where there are numerous lucrative fights.

Hopkins went up to LHW and has not been below 170 since.
Williams dropped back to 154 for one fight after a fight at MW, is now back at MW. He probably never sees WW again.
Mosley IS financially desparate.

 

I didnt have the fight even close. and only Flaw i saw was Marg hit williams in the eye and his eye cut open * Paul williams slugged Margo. Now he stopped throwing many jabs in the second half. two Flaws that is actually. A boxer gets hit he forgets about it and let go and catch them later a fighter retaliates immidiately. But then again with williams style I guess he is a fighter more then a boxer. dont need to touch on his strengths

Margo you are acurate. Reason why hes able to cut off the ring so well was his chin. 1 gift compliments the other. He moves forward or to the side cutting the ring off and you hit him and he keeps coming. Floyd ends up on the ropes alot against margo because the check left hook would score but wont help him off the ropes. But I still think too many tools to use in that arsenal for margo to have won. But I only saw 3 margo fights and only saw what the hype was about in 1. Saw 2 baldo fights and Liked him. Besides in 06 baldo was the #1 champ in the division Zab was #3 we just have bad memories Floyd fought the best that was recognized

 

Your post is a huge cluster**** of excuses and rants. Floyd was always said to be a small welter and given a pass for his opponents from his fans. Marg, Williams, and Cotto all deserved a shot at Floyd. You complain about Pac wanting catchweights for fighting naturally much bigger guys, but I hear nothin from your side about Floyd facing three men in a row who are naturally smaller men. So by your logic Floyd should fight Williams at 154 since he beat Oscar there and was effective at the weight.

By the way, Pac should fight Floyd at 147 and agree to 50/50 purse.

 

seriously this is what is ****in the fight game up....as long as both them assholes don't weigh over 147 or less than 140 who gives a ****!!! "Just get the contract done" - Tszyu

 

I agree.

The backlash is coming from all the talk of Floyd being a small welter before the JMM fight. My only problem is that he is a full fledged welter who has been feasting on smaller and older men. I understand it's about money, but he should've tried and gunned down Shane early next year and Pac in the spring. I think he needs to fight a welter. And as good as Pacman is I give him a slight edge after their last two fights. He's a Jr, welter fighting above his weight.

 

Do you mother****ers rather see Pac stay at 140 instead of seeing a fight between Pac and PBF?

At least Pac is willing to step up to a territory even when he is clearly the smaller guy.

 

Mayweather should agree to the weight, but ask for the bigger purse if that's the case. I don't really see making 145 a huge issue for Mayweather. Plus it eliminates some of the excuses going in.

It was harder for Cotto to make the weight because he walks around way heavier then 147 so im told. The extra 2pds is a bigger deal for Cotto then Mayweather.

I use to wrestle in high school. I wrestled at 112 but I weighed 124 in the summer. During the season as I trained I stayed naturally at 119. We would have 2-3 days of separation between matches and after every match I would go back up to 119 and have to cut 7pds in 2-3 days for about 4 month span. I already was very skinny and had hardly any body fat to begin with. I wanted to wrestle at 119 but I told my coach in the summer that I would make 112. So the lineup was planed out and everyone planned for there weights and it would have been selfish of me to make everyone have to change there weight as the season started so I did it.

I know all about cutting weight.

 

I thought it was close but clear. I felt it may have turned out better for Marg in a rematch. Maybe Williams would be more dominant cause he was strong in the 12th.

Marg did have some fights he looked great, some not really. Against Clottey he looked like **** but pulled it off. Marg could have got frustrated against Floyd like Baldo but I felt Marg was a better all around fighter. The chin, I just couldn't see Floyd keeping him outside. Like you said Floyd loves to shell up on the ropes in defense mode.

 

The loser shows up better next go around more then Likley so who knows. I tried to watch the clottey marg but cut it off it was a little Boring. Go figure guess i wanted marg to do better because of the hype but thats how that goes. oh yea paul did have a clearly good round in 12 he used his jab more

 

While Margo has a chin, but he is way to slow. PBF would beat him to the punch like crazy. Even if Margo cut off the ring and had PBF against the ropes. Mayweather would see Margo's punches coming from a mile away and tag him a couple times then move out the way. Especially after he hits him in the eye and has to hesitate.

Margo would throw those wide ass hooks and Mayweather would rip him with the overhand right.

 

Maweather can beat Pacman either way. So why not beat Roach and Pacman in there own catch weight game. This way when people try to claim Mayweather only won because he was the bigger man. Then he can always have the catch weight agreement in his back pocket.

 

I just don't believe all that slow can't catch fast talk. Hatton was slower and caught Floyd, he used effective aggression cut off the ring and had Floyd reeling on the ropes. Marg has a long reach, height, power, stamina,high output, body punching. He knows how to fight. Castillo was much slower and was catching Floyd as well as Oscar. It's not always the speed but, how you can trap and set traps. JMM was slower and caught Pac, so did Morales and Cotto.

 

JMM caught Floyd with the best shot I seen in 6-7 years