Freddie Roach: "I want the (Mayweather) fight at 145"

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  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea too bad his frame couldn't handle the weight.
     
  2. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    145 is fair, its only one pound less than Floyds last fight. Manny looks real good around 143/144.
     
  3. NALLEGE

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    When did you see this lol...
     
  4. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:roflSee theres your logic again. Floyd is no Shane and doesn't have the power or instinct to go after a man like that, so it's not comparable. Without Mosley's power and aggression different fight see Floyd. The Forrest and Winky who beat Shane would mop Floyd. Would you agree?
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    After seeing Cotto suffer, Floyd won't fight at 145 sorry Pac fans lol... Everyone wants 50-50 and 147. Only PAc's fans want the fight at 145 and we all know why lol... Pac's a *****, and he'll continue to look like one until I know that the fight is made. No more old men, no catch weight fights, no past it guys-just fight Floyd at 147.
     
  6. Concrete

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    Hatton didn't have great all around hand speed. But his short inside punches were very fast.

    Margo would catch PBF with a punch here and there as all the fighters you mentioned. But just like all the fighters you mentioned PBF would be to fast and skilled for them. You are only banking on a punchers chance.

    Castillo only gave PBF work because he had a torn rotator cuff in his shoulder when they fought. PBF is a way more conservative and defensive fighter then Pac. Pac is more able to be hit then PBF. Pac also stated that he wanted to test Cotto power early to see if he could handle it.

    Margo is also not a devastating one punch knockout guy. Especially anyone with a decent chin. Margo is the type of guy that beats people down after hitting them continually. Mayweather doesn't get beat down. Even Pacman was able to drop Cotto with a one punch knockdown yet Margo could made Cotto take a Knee with plaster hands. Margo also caught Williams with a ton a shots and couldn't drop him.

    The skills of Mayweather are far more superior then Margo, Margo would not be able to do half of the stuff to Mayweather that he did to most of his opponents.
     
  7. renyo

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    Cmon now. I know you're his biggest supporter. But in the first half of the fight Hatton gave Floyd all he could handle. He even stunned Floyd, I think in round two before Cortez jumped in.
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    Hell no lol... Mop Floyd? Yeah ok lol...
     
  9. Darni187

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    Why should Floyd stay at his now natural weight and little Manny has to move to to his weight to fight him, Floyd should show some balls and give a little aswell.
     
  10. kukoy

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    People are forgetting that WW range is from I believe 141 to 147 lbs. The reason for the maximum limit of 147 is for the bigger guys who really belong to the next weight division not to drain themselves and try fighting smaller guys at the lower 147, Margo is a good example of this.
     
  11. BigReg

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    Because Manny is a champion at WW, and because he's considered to be the best WW. What a strange concept, askin the supposed top WW to fight another WW without a catchweight.:nut
     
  12. renyo

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    It's all speculation. We don't know if Marg could have done what to Floyd. But I was betting on more than a punchers chance, that's for sure. It's a style matchup and every fighter has their kryptonite, even Floyd. we haven't seen him fight a big, cagey guy with affective aggression, good footwork, high output ,and a big array of punches in a long time. Name the last one. Castillo.
     
  13. Concrete

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    Name me a fighter Margo fought with PBFs speed and reflexes?

    DLH is also a superior fighter then Margo.

    Mayweather moved up to 154 to fight him, with 10ounce gloves and a shorten ring. vs a way more skilled opponent, who has more hand speed, just as much or more power, better trainers, and the same size difference. What makes you think that Mayweather couldn't handle Margo at a more natural 147, with his normal 8ounce gloves, in a normal sized ring.

    Had to edit this real quick.
     
  14. Darni187

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    But we all know Manny is not a natural WW the guy at this age is a natural 135 fighter but has got the balls to come up and fight guys who will come fight night come in around 150 mark. Floyd should give a little aswell just like a real warrior Cotto did.
     
  15. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think Floyd is after the title? Hell NO. If he really is, Shane has been calling forever with a much recognized belt.