Orlando Canizales?

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  1. Flea Man

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    On a day he's comfortable at the weight he's my no.3 h2h at 118 behind Jofre and Olivares. I like Zarate 4th, Harada 5th. There are of course days when that shifts around, but Rose is a lock for top 5 (sometimes Canizales is right up there) as you know I think about the Bantams a fair bit. Jofre and Olivares will always be 1 and 2 resectively, taking it back tonthe thread, Canizales is right u there with these guys IMO, with Ortiz as well, although Canizales' resume sees him between 8-12 or something likethat in my ATG bantams list. I should probably make some roper lists rather than assuming everyone knows what I mean by 'hypothetical brackets' :lol:
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    flea tahts how i have it

    H2H

    1. Olivares
    2. Jofre
    3. Rose
    4. Harada
    5. Zarate
     
  3. Flea Man

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    I have Jofre first. 3-5 are interchangable for me, as I say sometimes I put Ortiz right up there. There are times I watch Zamora when Im convinced only the top,top punchers would trouble him, but then again I feel retry certain Hatada would have enough nuance to mix u his swarming with boxing and stop Zamora late. The Bantams are so damn good it's easy to forget certain fighters, fights and talent sometimes. It's deep. Lora is someone I don't know enough about, though everything I've seen has impressed me.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh its so deep.

    Ortiz is goo IMo of what i have seen but he ca be outboxed

    him vs Olivares would be a dream match up
     
  5. teeto

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    I agree with you. My blood was boiling then, thanks for the shot to calm me down.
     
  6. Mantequilla

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    Even though he was raw, Fenech shouldn't be underestimated here either.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Oh ****! See what I mean? How could I forget Fenech, this was pretty much the last time his hands weren't completely mangled if I'm not wrong. Then you've got the 'walk through anything' assault of Moon. And the varied attack and sheer strength of one of my favourites. Altogether now :rofl
     
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    I reckon Fenech could beat Zarate to be honest, i'm not 100 percent like, but yeah.
     
  9. TBooze

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    Well he did beat him!;)
     
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    Im firmly in the camp that Zarate at the peak of his powers would fare better. Fenech was super-tough.....aagh it's a hard one. Fenech seemed more of a complete package at the lower weights, I guess because he didn't have to adapt his style although je was undeniably effective at 126 and 130. You know, I really should know more about Fenech, he's someone I've raved on in the past having watched little of :lol: god knows why either, I've seen state, a fight in which I don't know the opponent, and Nelson 1. Ashamed.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I should have named the thread let's talk about every Bantamweight in history except for Canizales. :lol:
     
  12. teeto

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    Nar, not Zarate, you know better mate.
     
  13. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any takes on Canizales vs Jibaro Perez then if that had taken place with both at their best?.
     
  14. TBooze

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    It would of been intersting had they met in their 118lbs prime. I am figuring Zarate to win though, as he seemed a lot more comfortable at the weight, and had a lot more experience.
     
  15. teeto

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    It's a hard one, you've got that strength of Fenech, a force to reckoned with, then you've got that seasoned pro who knows how to find the mark so well, and is durable.