Jack Johnson- Jim Johnson was a 10 rounder.

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One of many reports in the French media re the Jack Johnson-Jim Johnson fight.
    Le Figaro Decembre 19, 1913.
    "Le celebre et magnifique boxeur negre Jack Johnson, que lit a Paris d'assez nombreux et longs sejours paraitra se soir pour la premiere fois sur la ring, rancais. Cette apparation a sensation aura lieu au Premierland. Jack Johnson s'y rencontrera en un combat en dix reprises de trois minutes contre le negre Jim Johnson"
    BTw I have not seen it advertised as a World title fight.
     
  2. Woller

    Woller Active Member Full Member

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    Yes - I have never heard othervise ?!

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  3. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Apparently over time there has developed a tradition the fight was stopped early.



    http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/johnson-battling-jim.htm

    Dec 19 Jack Johnson Paris, Fr D 10
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    This bout was scheduled for 20 rounds but
    terminated after 10 rounds due to arm injury
    to the Champion
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    I can see how some people got the wrong end of the stick but I am content that it was a ten rounder.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Me too ,my French is rusty but that is pretty clear about it.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does not need to be, as it was not an exhibition; then by default as the World's Heavyweight Champion, Johnson has to be defending the championship, that is a unwritten rule.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    And if it was a 20 round match, Jim Johnson should have been crowned the next champion via TKO win.

    In fact the French wanted to strip Jack Johnson of his title for this fight.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    By the way, you can see Jim " battling " Johnson on film. I have a few minutes of him vs. Sam McVey, and from the looks of it Battling Jim is slightly the better.
     
  9. mcvey

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    But, it was not a 20 rounder.

    If your Aunt had balls she would be your Uncle, etc.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    That is debatable. I have shown you two cases where they say it was 20 rounds. By chance did you read about this fight in Unforgivable Blackness?
     
  11. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. Unforgiven

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1Du1z8R_f8[/ame]

    I've seen this before, but I have my doubts over it being Battling Jim Johnson.
    I think McVey is the one with the hair, and both fighters are under 6' IMO, with the bald one being slightly shorter.
    Most sources put McVey at 5'10,
    Jim Johnson is put at 6'3

    So, which one of the two is McVey, and which one is 6'3 ?
     
  13. mcvey

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    That is Mcvey,who was under 5'11'' .I very much doubt that is Jim Johnson who is listed as 6'3'' and 220-240lbs,the photo of Johnson on Cyber zone shows a huge man with a full head of hair.
    Mcvey's opponent looks shorter than him here, it's possibly Jeff Clark ,who was 5' 8''/9'' and shaved his head,it could be in Paris ,or Panama.
     
  14. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    That is Jim Johnson. He was bald for much of his career.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    How tall was he ?