Heavyweight Tourney:Rd 3:Wladimir Klitschko .Vs. John L. Sullivan

Wlad KO within a couple of rounds.

There is a point where boxing really was hardly even a compareable sport to what it is now. The late 1800's definatly fall into this catagory.

 

Try as I might I have a very hard time picturing Sullivan beating Klitschko. Sullivan may have been quite the fighter for his time but lets face it, how many good big men were there in Sullivans time? How many of them employed a fast hard consistent jab or modern style combinations? My guess is that Sullivan relied more on brute force than skill to defeat his opponents, the majority of which were nowhere near the size and skill of Wlad. Throw the 2 of them in a dirt ring with bare knuckles and I'll pick John L. Put them in a modern ring with modern rules and Klitschko wins by KO everytime.

 

You can't pick Sullivan because it's too much to ask for. It's irresponsible thinking.

 

from what i've read on this guy in this thread, he is obviously a legend of his time, but does anybody honestly see him walking out in front of 50,000 people in Germany and having the skillset to KO Wladimir Klitschko? I don't.

 

Sullivan was a legend, but upon close examination he had his hands full in some fights, and his resume of wins over top gloved fighters is on the thin side. Wlad has too many advantages here. I'd pick him via TKO in the mid rounds.

 

I would also pick Charlie Mitchell over Wlad.




(commence guffawing)

 

Janitor, what you posted is mostly wishful thinking. I mean come on. You find one quote on "head movement" and then say he fights like Patterson and Dempsey? You do realize that every single boxer, regardless of style, employs head movement? You do realize that Patterson's style is extremely stupid with no or tiny gloves? You found a Dodo's skull and you're reconstructing it into a T-rex, using a lot of imagination.


Like others say: Sullivan was great for his time, but he has never faced anything remotely close to Wladmir Klitschko. He hasn't faced a modern, much larger competition pool where blacks aren't excluded... hell, he hasn't even faced modern boxing rules at all. You don't enter a Formula 1 race with a rally car. Maybe the rally car (Sullivan) is rough and tougher in a long draw, but under it's own rules, the F1 car annihilates the rally car.

 

its quite funny that a 19th century fighter is being compared to a 21st century fighter. put into perspective, its like comparing the heavweight champion of year 2120 with a Klitschko :tong

 

Perhaps Sullivan could pull it off by abusing the London Prize Ring rules (read about the second Sullivan-Mitchell fight) but there's really no way to possibly predict how he could do against a Klitschko under modern rules of boxing.

I would rather see Wladimir qualify here because when it comes to John L. Sullivan, we can only guess how good he could have been. With Wladimir, we know.

 

Too many joke posts on this thread. But I'm starting to wonder .....
....... do any of you guys seriously believe Klitschko has any sort of chance against Sullivan ?
:huh

 

If you let Sullivan choose the rules than I guarantee that he would request a queensbury bout.

 

Some might say Vitali is

:smoke