Any Kessler fans here? Can you answer this for me..

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  1. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just a quick observation. Why doesnt Kessler 'always' look to throw more combinations?

    From what i remember this is one of the things that made him look so good to me.

    I know vs Ward it would have been trickier than againts a lesser opponent. For many reason such as Ward had pretty good movement and was looking to clinch a lot.

    But too often he settles for the robot jab? and maybe one right hand?? I mean just let the combinations go? That one of the best things your good at, why dont you use it? Not all your punches will land but your harder to read than if you do the same thing over and over. Maybe lack of stamina i dont know?

    Ive got a feeling his corner isnt exactly telling him the right things...anyway
     
  2. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    His corner is one of his biggest problems. Richard Olsen (his coach since the amateurs) does not give the right advice when Kessler is in trouble. Against Calzaghe and Ward the only thing he said was: "be harder on him Mikkel". Also he is very negative and therefore not a very good motivator. I don't know why Montoya wasn't in the corner, but he should have been there.

    I would like Kessler to get another trainer, but I don't see it happening. He has been with Richard for too long and he is very loyal.
     
  3. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    He threw some combos later in the fight, But Ward dove into them to crowd them out.
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Kessler is a good fighter. But he has that typical flat footed Euro style. He simply cant deal with speed. Ward was quite clumsy with his head but bottom line that was a clinic. Kessler couldnt get off because Ward was simply to quick. Ward was in and out with the 1 2 3 before Kessler could even set his feet. Plus when he turned southpaw Kessler didnt seem to have a clue. Ward is known for his switch hitting and yet Kessler never sparred any lefties when in camp. Kessler will be back. But he'll need time to recover from those cuts.
     
  5. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Erhm... Great observations, but this thread is about Kessler's corner and not Kessler.

    Your points are valid, but besides the topic of the thread :good
     
  6. Bebop

    Bebop New Member Full Member

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    Yea just rewatched and also found it strange that Kessler didn't throw more rights or combos, especially when he got Ward to the ropes or when he just dodged a Ward flurry. Because of Ward's quickness probably, but I think he should have risked it still and turned it into more of a physical fight by throwing some more rights and combos and trade with Ward, following up on exchanges instead of resetting all the time. Kessler usually has powerful and quick combos. But also Ward went in to clinch many times when Kessler was looking to throw more than one punch. By the way when you see the fight again it isn't as one-sided as some people say, it's quite competitive, and Kessler wins at least 2 rounds, the 2nd and 9th, and a couple are close.
     
  7. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Rumors in the Danish media are that Sauerland has asked Kessler for a meeting about his future. It is also rumored that they want to talk about Kessler's setup and trainers.
     
  8. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    Might be a good idea.
     
  9. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Let´s hope so...
     
  10. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    ****ing eh...

    I do not like Richard Olsen. What the **** is he on about telling Kessler to "be harder on him". That's not great advice now is it?
     
  11. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Uli Wegner should be training Abraham AND Kessler :D

    Good sparring sessions I guess...
     
  12. Korn_06

    Korn_06 ESB Slave Full Member

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    Well the problem for Kessler I think is that he need to loosen up his boxing, and the way he has been doing that before is by landing that Jab. From landing the jab all kinds of good things comes, but is he not able to establish controll with his jab then he can not just start throwing combos. This becomes a shortcoming of his now. He gets clueless when he does not land the Jab. Behind a jab that is landing I think he has no problems with Froch, but if he can not establish the jab he'd better start thinking about having more ways to box.
     
  13. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember in the Calzaghe fight where Kessler said something like: I don't know what to do. Which is practically begging for advide. Ricard Olsen responded: Hard punches, Mikkel. Yeah, right.

    Although he has alle the basics and the physical things in check, he does not know some vital things: Fighting on the inside and head movement. Seems weird that a guy with that many top fights doesn't know these two extremely vital things.
     
  14. CharlieGarbs

    CharlieGarbs Guest

    He just simply can't handle movement well. A slick fighter will always give him problems. He finds it harder to get in a rhythm and dictate range. Most of his career up to Calzaghe he's been fighting people that stand in front of him. A speedy guy who moves well with alot of upper body movement will always beat him I believe. I think he'll KO Froch though, great style match up for him. He will find it easier will Dirrell (may not win) because Dirrell isn't as strong as Ward physically, and could really rough him up with combo's where as Froch is too slow.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Corner. He has a very poor trainer. They have never diversified his game over the years, the Mikkel Kessler of today is the same Kessler of 5 years ago on a technical level. Maybe he's lost something physically, but on a technical level he's the exact same fighter.

    The reason he didn't get combos off is because he relies on building off the jab and Ward took that away with movement so the jab fell short.

    But as you could see, they never taught Mikkel inside fighter, never taught him to tighten up his left-hook, just really basic things.