Fighters who are often lauded as all time greats.....

I read you loud and clear.

 

Nah, but it's worth mentioning that he came pretty close to cleaning out jr. lightweight during his tenure at champion. He's also done some reasonably nice work at welterweight, and if he manages to dismiss Pacquiao in the same fashion that he did with Marquez, or better yet Corrales, he'll have made a case for the Top 50.

Anyway, my pick would be Kostya Tszyu, who looked freaking awesome at his best, but just didn't have the signature win to offset those losses to Hatton and Phillips (Judah doesn't count, really). Terrific fighter, but not the ATG that some people make him out to be.

 

I seem to spend half my time on this forum trying to convey this opinion to the masses. :happy

 

Do you really think a win over Margarito or Shane Mosley would have done anything to change your mind?
What fight or fights were so important to Floyd's career that makes you think his past accomplishments are now meaningless?

 

He probably wouldn't be in my top 50 either, but he'd be there or there a bouts. I think when we consider that resume, longevity, and technical ability are easily among the most important factors when considering greatness, and that Barrera scores highly in all three categories, dismissing him as an all-time great would be an injustice.

Where would Carlos Zarate or Michael Spinks rank? Two fighters who I hold in very high regard, but are very comparable to Marco Antonio Barrera in my judgment. How about Rocky Marciano?

 

It's unfair to assume they wouldn't have when you consider both Margarito and Mosley are infinitely more decorated at Welterweight than anyone Floyd Mayweather Jr has faced.

 

Im just presenting you with a question, I wasnt implying you said anything. I read your post about how you feel about his resume, so Im presenting you with a question.

 

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Specifically this:

He's an extremely good fighter of high technical ability whose combined mouth, selective management and good fortune to fight in an average era that he still didn't clean out have given him an undefeated record that matters jack **** in the grand scheme of things

 

I just feel Floyd is unfairly trashed lately. Sure Mosley and Margarito would have enhanced his career even more, but I think Floyd is getting drug down into the bawls of boxing by the very same people who put Mr Calzahge on a much more unfounded plateau with his undefeated record.

 

He had what four fights at weltwerweight and then fought ODLH at 150? Id say ODLH at 150 was a pretty decent scalp as was Zab Judah?
Its easy if you dislike Mayweather to just point to the fighters he didnt face, but when you really break down their records and compare them to the fighters that Floyd faced, I dont see how it could detract from his career that much. Im no fan of Mayweathers bahavior either, but if you followed his early career it was quite impressive. Taking money fights after what he accomplished is not such a bad thing. Its unfortunately a part of boxing, and I think he will take this challenge to face Pac because of the money involved.