P4P: Make a list purely on ability

I'm thinking he might have been slightly past his physical prime by the time of the Fuji and Cervantes fights, looking at his body shape and reduced movement in comparison to the Ortiz fight and before when he was a lightweight. His skills were at their peak though.

 

1. Sugar Ray Leonard
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Sugar Ray Robinson
4. Pernell Whitaker
5. Marvin Hagler
6. Roberto Duran
7. Wilfred Benitez
8. Roy Jones Jr
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Mike Tyson

 

I wasn't singling him out, i was just expressing an opinion on something i have one on. It wasn't a shot at you or anything. I didn't comment on Conn because i believe he fits in here, absolute heaps of ability.

 

Haha, didn't know of your liking of Locche, me too though. Great to watch. Yeah Gushiken is a good example of a guy without the resume but looks (to me) sort of heaven to watch.

 

Conn is the one of the obvious ones that would have never crossed my mind due to being obvious. Genius he was, other not having a killer punch, though a respectable one. Good enough to beat any light heavy in history IMO and a good few heavys to boot. Think of how high he'd be rated if he'd pipped Louis having already beaten Yarosz, Risko, Apostoli, Dundee, Bettina, Lesnevich, Young Corbett III and all the others.

 

It's a great shout.

 

1. Nikolai Valuev
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Enzo Maccarinelli
4. Rick Thornberry
5. Branko Sobot
6. Kabary Salem
7. Mger Mkrtchyan
8. Tocker Pudwill
9. David Starie
10. Mario Veit

 

Calzaghe must be the most proven fighter ever if they're the best guys for ability! That's his list of victims isn't it?!

 

Yes!!!! Calzaghe is Number 1 ATG!!!! :deal

 

It's amazing, because he doesn't let the shots go till he sees the opening, he can switch his tempo from low to high in a split second. He was quite complete.

Surprised nobody mentioned my number 10 spot.

 

Just seen it

I actually had a bit of a soft spot for the little fella after he upset M'Baye.

 

What a display of bringing tactical nouse to fruition. It was a serious pick.

 

Top 5 on ability (including only fighters I have seen fight):

1.Roberto Duran
(beat Leonard at his weight when they both in top shape)
2.Ray Leonard
(more adaptable than Duran, but a whisker behind him in terms of all-round effectiveness in his prime)
3.Ray Robinson
(I haven't seen him fight at 147, only 160)
4.Pernell Whitaker
(if he had better power, he'd be number 1)
5.Willie Pep
(a genius)

I know most people will have Tommy Hearns in there, but I just can't do it. I'm sorry Hitman fans, but the chin issue is always at the back of my mind, especially when considering 15 rounders. I know that is blasphemy to some, but he had a weakness no-one else in my top 5 had. JMHO.