Frank Mir: "Fedor Wants No Part Of Facing Real Competition"

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  1. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Once agian if it was this bad then postpone the fight noboddy wants to do that but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Nogueira showed up weak and has noboddy to blaim but himself for losing and losing in terribly one sided fashion like he did. You are right about it leaking but I dont think its fair to have Nogueira and especially Joe Rogan or Dana White say it 30 times each in the buildup to Nogueira-Couture as it does take away from the win Frank earned.
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah Fedor gasses almost every fight.
     
  3. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Omg, you're missing the point. No one is blaming Mir or w/e. Point is with all things considered that win isn't impressive. It is deserved win and Mir did great. I don't think anyone should be making excuses for Nogueira's loss. I'm not making excuses for his loss. I'm saying Mir shouldn't be all that ****ing proud of himself for beating lame Nog that he starts talking ****. The win was not impressive in the sense that it did not prove that much of anything about Mir.
     
  4. jimmie

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    So you say Mir did geat but shouldnt be proud of himself ? Mir has always been a cocky **** talker so the Nogueira WIN did nothing to that.
     
  5. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. I'd rephrase it as he shouldn't be too proud of himself as he seems to be. At least not any more than when he beat Tim Sylvia with that armbar. Same way I think that Fedor did great against Zulu but if that was the proudest thing he did in his career it's not saying much.
    Actually, he changed his tune quite a bit after that win and not only towards Fedor either. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that he probably looked up to Nogueira during earlier in his career.
     
  6. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Don't say stupid ****.
     
  7. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Zulu isnt anything near even a sick Nogueira so maybe not the best comparison.
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are out of your tiny little mind. Mir takes one of Rogers' limbs home as a trophey.
     
  9. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you know that Mir was 100% healthy? That any of Nog's wins were because his opponent was hurt?

    Mir didn't just beat him because Nog was sick, he surprised everybody by showing really improved striking; you can look good no matter who is across from you.

    Not to mention Mir was the first one to actually stop Nog; lots have cracked his chin, Mir finally broke it.
     
  10. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Mir is totally overated.

    Alway's has been.

    There's a damn good chance that he'll get stopped vs Kongo anyway so **** what he say's.
     
  11. Big T

    Big T Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If I was Mir or anyother HW in MMA, I also would call out Fedor. Why? Becuse if you look at it, Fedor is due to get beat. Could be any number of fights. It's not because the fighters are any better, it's AGE. He at this point is he is still the Number 1 HW in the world. It's going to happen and you want that under your belt that you beat Fedor. So why not call him out.
     
  12. codeman99998

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    Frank Mir versus Rogers could be a very good fight. I think after the Kongo fight we'll be able to see (if Mir does what he says and stands with Kongo) if his standup has really improved as much as it seemed against Nog or if Nog's weakness made him look better than he is.

    He threw a LOT of lead uppercuts from distance against Nog and that can be a huge mistake against someone with a big power like Rogers. I do agree that Mir could submit Rogers if the fight got to the ground but Fedor didn't have an easy time keeping Rogers down so I can see Rogers keeping it standing possibly.
     
  13. codeman99998

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    It's not just that though. Frank Mir is not some unbiased spectator. He is a professional fighter who has beaten some top tier competition (In Nog and Sylvia), is a former champion, and works his ass off to be the best he can be. If he didn't believe he could beat anyone in the world he almost certainly wouldn't be as good of a fighter as he is and you really can't blame him for thinking he can beat anyone.

    I imagine most top 10 fighters in any weight class believe that they can beat anyone in the world on their night.
     
  14. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Frank Mir:

    Brazilian Jiu jitsu black belt.

    A top 10 HW.

    Subbed a black belt in Roberto Tavern in his UFC debut in about a minute.

    Former UFC HW champion (never lost the title)

    His submission wins are masterful. Subbed Pete Williams with a clever arm/elbow lock that nobody had ever seen before. Submissions 101 still calls it the Mir lock.

    Was supposed to be Tank Abbot's sacrificial lamb and he ruined his show seemingly as soon as that fight started.

    The first man to beat Tim Sylvia and snapped his arm in under a minute.

    Brock Lesnar's UFC debut was really huge, Mir ****ed his show up too.

    Whether you like it or not he stopped NOG.


    And there's also a damn good chance Kongo gets one of his arms ripped off so **** what YOU say.
     
  15. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I like to look at his loses too and the **** fights that he's had. ;)