A knockdown can be evened out by simply winning a round?

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  1. johnnywalkitoff

    johnnywalkitoff Member Full Member

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    Most of you are missing the main point it is a ten point MUST system...the winner of the round gets 10 points unless there are deductions for fouls. 9-9 is plain ******ed.
    In this instance Cotto won the majority of the round, but by no means blowing Pac out and Pac knocked him down. The only correct way to score the round is 10-8 or if you believe that Cotto was overwhelmingly winning the round (besides bieing knocked down) 10-9 both scored for Pac. I usually need a knocked down fighter to win every second of the round besides their knockdown to not score it 10-8. So I gave it Pac 10-8.
     
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  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Of course . . . a knockdown is simply minus one point in a round. So if the fighter winning a round got a flash KD . . . score would be 9 - 9. If the fighter winning the round KDied the other fighter . . . score would be 10 - 8.
     
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    Wrong.

    It would be 10-9.

    10 point must system.
     
  5. cilldara11

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    Yeah but like someone said already- If it's a ten point must system, there can't be a 9-9 round.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A 9-9 round only happens when there is a point deduction. Simple as that.
     
  7. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    Holyfield kd Moorer in 2nd round and it was scored 10-10! Holyfield only landed like 3 punches in that round!
     
  8. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the only way for a round to be scored 9-9 is by the winner of the round having a point deducted for a foul, not a knock down. otherwise the winner of the round MUST be given 10 points.
     
  9. Moneyman

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    This is absolutely correct and Lampley is an idiot period. I think maybe he was saying Cotto was trying to even up the round by KD PAC. The is nbo other way for him to get his point back.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Yes, if judges and fans and TV announcers are calling rounds as 9-9 without any point deductions for fouls, then the 10-POINT MUST SYSTEM has been thoroughly perverted.

    The winner of a round should always get the 10 unless he committed a foul and was penalized and docked a point (or points) by the referee. That's how the system works.

    Knockdowns should be scored at the judges' discretion, and it should be the convention to score a round 10-8 to the winner who scored the knockdown, but not mandatory. I dont think a fighter gets "deducted" a point for being knocked down. It's just the winning margin should reflect and reward the knockdown heavily, though this can be offset by the fighter who was knocked down scoring heavily and one-sidedly in the other direction. In theory, the fighter who was knocked down could still finish up the round at 10-10 or even winning 10-9.

    That's the 10-point must system.
    But it's probably been twisted and distorted in all manner of ways.
     
  11. toughy82

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    http://everything2.com/title/Boxing+scoring



    Awarding Points For each round, judges determine the score using the ten-point must system. This means that (usually) the winner of the round gets ten points, and the loser gets nine points. There are exceptions to this rule. For example, when a fighter is knocked down, that fighter loses a point. So if the fighter that was knocked down loses the round the score would be 10 to 8 for that round. If the fighter that was knocked down wins the round (which is rare) the score would be 9 to 9. If a fighter is knocked down twice, the score would normally be 10 to 7 for the round. If three knockdowns occur you should have a 10 to 6 round, etc. Also, it is possible for a judge to score a round as a tie, which is exceedingly rare. In this case the score for the round would be 10-10.
     
  12. toughy82

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    Like the constitution:-(
     
  13. homebrand

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    this, again, is just some bloke's opinion.

    We need an official text to settle this. WBA or WBO official scoring rules for example.
     
  14. link2296

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    It's obviously at the judges' discretion, but I would always award a 10-8 round to the fighter who knocks down his opponent...even in the event that he is perceived to be losing the round. Again, it is up to the judge...some judges score fights differently than others.
     
  15. NoCoolFool?

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    Good thing I have nothing better to do at the moment....
    From the WBA website (www.wbaonline.com

    3. Scoring. The judges shall score and decide the result of a bout using the “Ten Point Score System”. The winner of a complete round shall be entitled to ten (10) points and the opponent to a proportional smaller number. Rounds may be scored even if a Judge cannot determine a winner of the round. All rounds must be scored, even when incomplete. A score should not be less than ten (10)-seven (7), unless a different scoring system is mandated by law or is applicable to a unified title bout, or the referee has taken away points. Scores will be announced only at the end of a bout.
    4. Deducted Points. When one or both contenders have points deducted, the judges will register the deduction on their scorecards. If a fight must be stopped in a round where points were deducted and it is necessary to go to the scorecards, the points deducted by the referee in that round shall be considered.