What is the most accurate description of this man's style. I've watched two of his fights in their entirety, and I just don't see him being this relentless pressure fighter that I often hear people say about him. In the thread pitting him against Chang, it was a while back, people seemed to think a toe to toe war would be in Yuh's favor. That may be the case, but what I see of Yuh is that he's very deliberate with what he throws, and he's patient too. He'll wait to see the openings and then maybe throw two of three pitter patter shots upstairs, or just dig down hard to the body. It really destroyed Tokushima, a fight which is on youtube. He seemed quite capable defensively too, blocking most of what came his way, or slipping the punches. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElQoSvDJG3c&feature=related[/ame] He looks a lot more skilled than some seem to credit him for to me.
I personally feel it's Yuh who would fare better at mid-range and that Chang WOULD need to get on the inside against the strong Yuh, who I feel would need to mix it up. I'd favour Chang in a close decision over 15.
I feel the same. The real reason the thread is here though is to point out the strengths of Yuh. I don't think its his volume of punches as much as his placement and variation. The knockdown at 9.08 in that video is awesome. Jab, left hook, short compact right, left to the body. Then he plants himself to dig in a right to the body, like Morales did against Zaragoza. Beautiful work. Very skilled.
trying to sum things uop as quickly as possible to someone who has never watched him before i mighty say... A tidy, well-schooled textbook fighter that can do a bit of everything.Likes to apply educated pressure and throws a lot of punches. Something like that.Certainly don't expect Harada in terms of intensity. he's a very generic fighter stylistically really, though i don't mean that in a bad way.Unflashy.More about consistency and being steady thanl finesse. I really like watching him fight, though i'm not a big advocate of his talent.
Where do you rank him all-time at Light Flyweight, Mantequilla. And that's spot on from what I've seen. Spot on.
I think Woo would beat Carbajal, who really struggled when taken out of his comfort zone. Does Woo's 17 consecutive title defenses not seperate him from the Carbajal's and Gonzalez's? From what I've read, Woo didn't fight particuarly bad competition...a few of them were former or future world champions.
It could.I certainly wouldn't rant if anyone had him above them. I would probably review everything i have on them before i made a definitive decision.Been a while since i watched much of any of them , other than the odd fight here and there. I did that with Eubank recently, and came away slightly more impressed with him than had been the case.been meaning to do some write-ups on the fights i scored, but laziness has got in the way.
He didn't really face the level of opposition to put a whole lot of merit into those title defences. What that says is that he was a very dedicated champion, doesn't speak volumes about his ability though. I think Yuh was a very good fighter, but while I think a fight between he and Chang would be very exciting, I agree with Mante that he's getting a tad overrated ability wise (at least in comparison to Chang). I certainly don't see him out-boxing Chang, and to be honest I didn't think too highly of his boxing skills on the outside. It was when he got into hustle mode, turning up the pace on his opponents and forcing them to respond in kind that he really impressed me. Either way, guys like Tokushima aren't really solid benchmarks for displaying your talent against. Chang looked more impressive against a higher caliber of opponent than Yuh did, and had a lot more natural talent IMO. I do think Yuh would beat Carbajal, though.
Well we seem to be getting fixated on this idea that we need to compare Yuh to Chang. Isn't he the consensus number 1 Light Flyweight ever? I haven't actually heard anyone rate Yuh in terms of his ability, they just say he was a dedicated champion, and threw a lot of punches. He sure as hell looks better than that in footage. In terms of his resume, not to many Light Flyweights can boast about having a stacked resume. Very rarely are there more than 1 or 2 great fighters in the division at one time, but that's why I think the best way to rate the little guys is through dominance, consistency, and video footage. How do you see Yuh dealing with Gonzalez and his relentless pressure, Pea?
I might actually favor him over Gonzalez as well. Earlier in his career Gonzalez fought another Korean by the name of Yul-Woo Lee, who ran him extremely close using a similar style to what Yuh would've implied. I think Gonzalez would fare better in boxing mode to be honest, as I don't think he looked as capable of dealing out his power when crowded. Yuh's short, compact body and head blows in rapid succession would see him outwork Gonzalez to a decision were the fight to take that route. Again though, I do think Gonzalez's boxing skills on the outside were better than Yuh's, and he could off-set his attack if he opted to play the boxing game rather than the slugging one. However, I'd be inclined to think the fight is more likely to go down the former path given Gonzales's history and Yuh's determination.
So you think if the Gonzalez of the second Carbajal fight turns up, Yuh would be in for a long night?
If he were to go the same route as he did in that fight I think he could decision Yuh, yeah. Yuh just looked very awkward to me when he was standing off his opponent in boxing range. Not as effective there.