Frank Mir: "Fedor Wants No Part Of Facing Real Competition"

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  1. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    And that's fine. Losing is a big part of sports. And **** fights are nothing new to a fighter. And look how he's bounced back. Keep hating. You saying you like to look at his **** fights means you're well aware he's had some damn good performances also:deal
     
  2. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously? Mir is out of his mind for his statement. He shows up and stands up once in his career and thinks he's a bonafide striker.

    He's a good sub guy. Dangerous from his back if opponents are CARELESS. He's not a dynamic submissions guy, who can pull an arm in the flash of an eye.. He baits, goads, and sets guys up. IF a fighter knows what to look for, and aren't fighting stupid, they really shouldn't get caught by him.

    That Nog got caught standing up, several times is testament to his improved striking. But, I want to see it again before I consider his striking THAT improved.. Like improved on the level of Kos for example.. Mir, is notoriously lazy and cocky.

    Lets see him keep it up for another fight..
     
  3. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    He got bounced around by Brock more like. :lol:

    Brock just finished off what he started in the first fight when he was 1-0 against a can. :lol:

    Mir has'nt bounced back from ****.

    He's still the same old Framk Mir whos prone to getting smashed up and gassed to death.

    The Nog fight was just BS and everyone who's followed Nog's career and saw his fight with Randy knows it.

    He got smashed by Freeman after beating a Pete Williams who came off two TKO losses back to back.

    Beaten up by Vera and Cruz :lol:.

    Looked like **** against Christison.

    Tank? :lol:

    I've seen his fight with Tavern but can't remember it, and WTF did he do in MMA?

    Never seen his first two fights and have no desire to either.

    yeah he was the first man to beat Tim Sylvia, one of the most slagged off heavies and ridiculed heavies of all time. :lol:

    It was a great and brutal sub though.

    His sub against the mentally broken and immediately retired Williams was good too. :lol:

    Hardonks a mediocre fighter, nothing special that never fought anyone and was coming off a loss when he fought Mir.

    His fights with Wes Sims :lol: were garbage.

    If I remember correclty both Mir and Sims were gassed to death in the rematch? :lol:

    Lets be honest, no one will be shocked if Kongo beats him up AGAIN and stops him but even if he beats Kongo who gives a ****?

    Mir is a bum compared to Fedor and needs to STFU!

    Take all those fights where Mir was a beaten up and a bloodied mess, put them together and know that Fedor would beat his face in worse than all those dudes put togehter, and also leave Mir out cold on the matt too! :deal

    Ive never liked Mir and never understood what the fuss was about with this guy.

    Freeman exposed Mir a long time ago. :lol:
     
  4. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because serious **** like staph and serious injury usually swims up, and about 90% of the time people who barely train for a month prior to a fight don't look all that great.

    If Mir had anything that is as serious as either week of staph in a hospital OR a torn meniscus for 20 days prior to a fight than he is ****ing amazing.
     
  5. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    I think Tuffnutz summed up the crux of most people's indignation towards Mir's comments.

    "Mir is a bum compared to Fedor and needs to STFU!"
     
  6. Weber

    Weber Active Member Full Member

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    Look at Mir's resume and then take a look at Fedor's.

    Yeah. Frank Mir is ****ing idiot, and he has no business whatsoever badmouthing Fedor. Simple as that.
     
  7. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    I'm not arguing that Fedor beats Mir. I don't think you're paying attention. I never once said or indicated Mir can beat him. I never once compared resumes. However you mentioning the fights with Cruz (first fight back from a broken leg), Christinsen (CLEARY WASN'T TRAINING AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT YOU'RE BLIND AS ****) & Vera (when Mir was still drinking alot) means nothing. Just as how alot of fans like you cry and scream that wasn't the real NOG. It's the same thing.

    Maybe Lesnar did finish what he started from the first fight, but guess what? No matter how you look at it when Lesnar & his fans look at his record there's still a LOSS on it. A LOSS. A LOSS. His record says he lost ONCE. Mir put that blemish there and that's what it is.

    "Hasn't bounced back from ****?" How about YOU break YOUR LEG and see how YOU feel. Mir beating Lesnar & NOG after a broken leg sounds pretty damn good to me. Going through some hard times and some bad performances after he came back then regaining form and actually co-main eventing at UFC 100 is pretty ****in impressive. You mentioning Mir's win over Hardonk like it was nothing special is cool, I don't think Lesnar's snooze fest win over Hearring was special either.

    "The NOG fight was just BS?" Typical talk from some fan who's anti against a fighter and will say anything to discredit him. You comparing NOG's performance against a 60 yr old Couture who's shot to **** means absolutely nothing to me. Couture who's 7 losses in the UFC and are all within his last 14 fights and actually almost got KO'd by NOG and a gift over Brandon Vera kinda shows where the old man is right now. Don't you think? So continue with your Mir bashing. Keep it coming:thumbsup
     
  8. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Ok now I'm gonna tell you what I just told someone else. I NEVER ONCE COMPARED RESUMES. NEVER INDICATED. NEVER IMPLIED. NEVER EVEN SAID MIR CAN BEAT THE MAN. AND FRANK MIR IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTER. HOWEVER...

    It's his opinion and he can say whatever he likes. I can remember Brock Lesnar a while back making VERY clear he DOESN'T like gay people:lol: And guess what? People outraged, they said all kinds of things, infact there was a thread about it on here not to long ago that sparked alot of debate. And you wanna know something?

    Lesnar didn't give 2 shits. He never commented on it and never apologized which I found awesome. He left it alone and that was that. Frank Mir's opinions or slick talk about a fighter is something he chose to say and that's what it is. People act like he commited a crime or something:lol: I'm a Fedor fan like everyone else and believe he's the best in the world but hey, that doesn't stop people from having they're own opinion or simply just saying dumb **** to try and get the attention of another person when they choose to:lol:
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Rogers fought off Fedors submission attempts. If Rogers landed those GNP punches on Mir the fight would've been stopped. For me, Mir still hasn't proven himself
    Even back when he beat Sylvia, he was getting his ass beat. The one lesnar fight he was fortunate lesnar gave him that opportunity. Vera destroyed him and anybody with 1/2 a brain will tell you that the Nog victory means very little. I would pick Rogers to beat the **** out of him, I'm picking Kongo to beat him actually.
     
  10. Spunik

    Spunik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope Kongo pounds Mir into the ground.....
     
  11. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He avoided one attempt, because Fedor didn't have his leg over the face on one armbar.

    Mir would ****ing steamroll Rogers; you have to be flat out stupid to think otherwise.

    Eat Roger's shots? All 3 of them? Have you seen his first fight with Lesnar landing three times as many shots that were 5 times harder.

    Rogers better than Mir; you are a ****ing idiot.
     
  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can't pull an arm in a second? What'd he do to Sylvia? Oh but when Mir does it his opponent was careless, whereas everybody Fedor has ever subbed employed perfect defense.

    Isn't dynamic? What'd he do to Lesnar in the first fight?

    The man averages about a minute on the ground is in his sub wins; making not only what you say not true, but the exact opposite.

    If any legit criticism could be made of Mir's subs it's that he is too reliant on being quick and dynamic rather than methodical.

    I mean really, you don't just not have it right, you have it exactly the polar opposite of reality; Mir has always been a quick sub guy, not a beautiful set up guy, he grabs and snaps, and he usually does it as soon as it hits the ground. He has the best average time to land a sub of any major fighter, and you somehow manage to make a long winded post about how he doesn't do exactly what he is best known for.

    You could not be any more wrong if you tried, it is completly impossible, you have perfected being incorrect.
     
  14. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed if this isnt dynamic then im not sure WTF is

    http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Frank_Mir_vs_Pete_Williams_UFC_36?vid=10002561&tid=100

    http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Frank_Mir_vs_Roberto_Traven_UFC_34_High_Voltage?vid=10000600&tid=100
     
  15. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like I said, submissions, which if you are careful, and give a bjj blackbelt some respect, you will NOT get caught in an elbow lock or shoulder crank. It's almost akin to being subbed by can opener.

    Same with Lesnar. Should not have been caught in that submission, and would not have had he given Mir the respect of a guy who can pull off a sub.