Frank Mir: "Fedor Wants No Part Of Facing Real Competition"

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  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So all of his subs that come within a min of the fight being on the ground are just silly mistakes.

    Fedor's on the other hand are all perfectly executed against people defending with 100% precision.

    Your entire premise was the dumbest thing you have ever written; being dynamic and quick with subs is what Frank Mir is most known for, it is what he is defined as a fighter by.
     
  2. Charlie Z

    Charlie Z Don't hurt me Oleg Full Member

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    fedor would ****ing smash frank mir
     
  3. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NS21tznNw[/ame]
     
  4. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really.. So how would you rate Frank Mir among today's submission guys? How about even among BJJ Black Belts of all weight classes?

    This is the point I'm trying to draw out.. That he is quite ordinary as a black belt who has primarily been a submission guy. Stuffing words in my mouth, whether the subs come in the first round, or whatever makes little difference to me, to be perfectly honest. How impressive is Mir's fight, say against an opponent like Tim Silvia, versus say Noguera's fight against Mirco Crocop?

    Have you ever watched say, B.J. Penn implement dynamic moves in his submissions? Say, utilizing amazing flexibility to trap an arm with his leg?

    How about, something like Filho? You know the armbar is coming, but could you possibly stop it? Such a thing as relentless bjj.

    What about pulling something in the blink of an eye, that wasn't based on something that was necessarily a mistake? What I'm saying is, I don't see anything especially spectacular in his BJJ. He's a good blackbelt. If he were compared to other sub fighters on a lb for lb basis, I don't think his name even deserves to be mentioned.
     
  5. codeman99998

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  6. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    It doesn't matter. He seems like he knows exactly what to do against Kongo.
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I'm an idiot? Dude you need to shift gears back a few, immediately turning to personal insults after reading my opinion?

    A. Lesnar's punches WERE NOT 5 times harder than Rogers shots on fedor, only "****ing idiot" would think that. And Mir didn't take those and fight on :lol: He laid there, who knows what planet he was on when he was laying there 1/2 dead before the ref stopped it. Rogers was postured up putting his body into the shots and punching downward, Lesnar was laying on his side throwing arm punches. Look at the one right hand that lands flush on fedor's face....

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    B. Mir would steamroll Rogers now, but Fedor couldn't steam roll him? How? Fedor is better at EVERYTHING then Mir, what would be Mir's gameplan, what would he do to STEAMROLL Rogers, that Fedor failed to do?

    C. After watching ALL of Mir's fights, I think he would have more then a hard time with Rogers and I think he is grossly overrated and has been fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. He beat Lesnar, not because he was the better fighter, because Lesnar made a amateur mistake and then panicked and he beat Nog because...well everyone knows what happened there.
     
  8. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Mir is awesome! If you do not think so, simply ask him.:D
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I agree that he does look like a pub fighter, but the important thing is he doesn't fight like one. I would hate to get into a scrap with him in my local, I can tell you!!:). And of course physiques are very deceptive and the guy is obviously extremely fit. But here's a thing, could he "Cut" to 205? Probably, if he so chose! Were he to do so he could fight Anderson Silva and who wouldn't want to watch that fight???
     
  11. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't have to be better than Fedor, he has to be better than Rogers; he is much better than Rogers could ever hope to be.

    So Lesnar with his life of at least some form of grappling gets subbed, and I love how it's a "rookie mistake when Mir does it to somebody, but would have just been perfect technique if it was Fedor, but Rogers, with no grappling at all won't get caught by one of the best guys in the world at grabbing subs?

    That was not an easy leglock, he set it up perfectly, and then managed to finish it despite him having to use the shin as the stress point rather than the knee joint; he did this against easily the strongest serious fighter in MMA pulling away with all he had.

    You really just don't know **** about Mir; the whole promise of your post was that Mir can't do exactly what Mir has done his whole ****ing career. You just have no understanding of who he is, just a typical fightfinder expert.

    You laughed at Tank, guess what, Rogers is Tank with less power, less chin, less strength, and none of the wrestling.


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  13. Koa

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    There you go again Beebs. Mir is a good blackbelt. Compare him lb for lb with his peers; fighters who specialize in submissions, and he's a footnote.
     
  14. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Rogers is far better than Tank. I like his chances with Mir because Mir struggles with explosive guys IMO.

    Also the Brock submission was hardly related to Brock's background.
     
  15. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Not long now until Kongo beats up Mir. :lol: