Do the recent losses of Calzaghe's opponents depreciate JC's legacy?

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Except for the fact Floyd also has a pretty bad resume in terms of opponents.

I don't think he's anywhere near the top 50 put it that way, he has an undefeated record mainly because he cherry picked the weakest champions in every division because 'the WBC is the best belt' (which as the twattish Suliaman has proved isn't always the case)

For me, moreso than ever, nowadays it's not meaningless baubles but level of opposition that defines the fighter.

Champs back in the day HAD to fight the best opposition available.

Floyd has not done this, regardless of his often dazzling skillset, I don't believe he has tested it against an opponent who can REALLY put him to the test.

 

Manfreddy - the man, Corrales- the man, G Hernandez- the man, De La Hoya- the man, Castillio- The man, Judah- Still Dangerous, Hatton- the man, I could go on.... the guys a legend.

 

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Fleaman, that's somewhat true, but I think he still has a resume thats a step or two above JC's and has probably done enough to be considered a great, although it is debatable. If he finishes his career by beating Pac, Mosely and then Williams (which I don't think he will), I'll have no complaints. Obviosly I want Pac to kick his ass though:yep

 

No.

Hatton 'the man' at Welter?

gatti 'the man' at 140?

Corrales had already moved up, and was in the middle of a court case. He was clearly not with it. Corrales himself was essentially a flawed banger. Did we know that at the time? No. Did he prove his greatness post-Floyd? No.

Castillo was probably the best at 135lbs, but IMO he gave Floyd a real hard fight in the first match. And Castillo is NOT an ATG.

De La Hoya, yep, good win, but close enough and Oscar was past his best.

A victim of circumstance? Maybe. But an ATG at the highest echelons? No.

Floyd has a chance to prove his skillset against someone who can really give him a go. Shane is still EXTREMELY dangerous (and a far higher calibre of fighter than say, Judah) and Pac is at his peak and P4P no.1 (and I for one would not say 'Manny was too small' if Floyd were to beat him because he clearly isn't too small unlike Marquez)

Only my opinion, I hope my reasoning has shown that I'm not just a 'hater' :good

 

If you did judge all the same you'd have something along these lines -

Manfreddy - Lost 8 times. Crap

C Hernandez - Knocked down, lucky to survive.

DLH - Lost the fight.

Castillo - Lost the first fight.

Judah - Coming off a loss to Baldomir. Worthless.

Hatton - Crap at 147.

 

I like this explanation; good post.:good

 

This is the correct answer :good

 

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Why do people from the UK use the Americanism of resume?

It's C.V.

 

When we're taling boxing, its "record"....:deal

 

A Lock for top 170.

Sneaks in to top ten British.

 

Any logical fans of boxing had questions throughout Calzaghe's career, let alone now its over.

 

Only if you ranked him on the assumption that they would go on to great things.

If you are prudent then you ranked him based on what they had done up to that time.

 

If Pacman knocks the **** out of Gayweather does that suddenly make him **** and everyone he has fought ****? :-(