"Carbajal IMO was the better fighter than Chang"

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Addie, Dec 2, 2009.


  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Kaoker is brillaint i will give you that but hes not as good as you make out hes a tough fight for anyone but you think hes maybe the level of Rudkin?

    also yeh it was like 3 or 4 motnhs it took but it made it all the more better

    only thing with Kaoker is he might faint:lol:
     
  2. Flea Man

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    I think he'd fare as well as Rudkin in that era yes, but wouldn't do any better or worse than him. Rudkin has the kind of all-round game to keep Kahokor busy and win a decision, and I don't know if Al would agree but in a three fight series it'd probably be 1-1-1.

    And stop with the fainting. He shoulda moved up and fought Zaragoza, what a fight that would've been :deal
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Dunno i prefer Rudkin IMO, need to see more Galaxy. Imagine Moon vs Rudkin would be like :shock:

    Not seen too much Zaragoza but he was a lesser JMM. might fare well vs Galaxy as Galaxy did look somewhat lackadasical even while out boxing Moon
     
  4. Flea Man

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    But that's what I like about Kaokor.

    He'd stand there, looking half-arsed, but in that awkward Muay Thai style. He almost smothered your punches as you tried to feint and used his own sheer strength and brute force to get hard single shots off on you, or would stay at mid-range appearing like he was going through the motions and get off combinations.

    Don't let his appearance fool you; he meant business every second. In the first Moon fight he really does appear half-arsed, but Moon wasn't exactly at his usual marauding best, although he at least tries. Thing is, Kaokor does towards the end, only for a (probably) brill final third to be cut short.

    Honestly, get the Vasquez fight as well. Damn good.

    Rudkin fought in the better era though, no doubt. I don't know who would win between Rudkin and Moon, depends if Al Sr can resist the full-on tear up or whether he mixes up his approach; he does the latter he wins, Moon only had one gear, and it wasn't as refined as Masahiko's:deal
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Flea im off to bed ill respond tommorow

    but your rigth he was half arsed what i really like is his casual step to the side as his opponent keeps charging on
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Night Son.

    Addie; your threads usually get hijacked but I hope it is with interesting discussion. At least with this thread you yourself admitted other discussion was probably necessary to keep it going:lol::good
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: I'm just glad my threads actually garner some attention at all. Of course, I didn't expect anyone to present an argument for Carbajal, so going into other business was inevitable. Thoroughly enjoyable read, as always.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    watch Galaxy-Moon 2 and Galaxy-Vasquez, on youtube:deal:good:lol:Night mush.
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Chang had little power. Carbajal hit a ton, and he was skilled too. It would be an interesting match. Carbajal would own the outside. Chang would have to use defense and speed to go in and out and steal rounds. I'm not sure if Chang ever beat someone as good as Carbajal. I'd probably go with Carbajal here to win based on styles even though Chang was the better pound for pound fighter.
     
  10. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even zapata couldn't outbox Chang from the outside in the first fight, Carbajal holds no advantage at any distance.

    Chitalada and even Tokashiki were better than Catrbajal on the outside as well.Especially sot, who had one of the divisions great jabs.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Mendoza, stick to nuthugging Vitali :good
     
  12. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Mantequilla,

    Zapada holds a decision win over Chang in their first fight.

    Carbajal has a big height, reach, and power advantage here. And he's use it. Chang's style was quick punching. He has to move into the danger zone.

    Carbajal also holds KO wins over Gonzalez, and Kittakesm. Both Gonzalez and Kittakesm defeated Chang.
     
  14. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In my opinion this fights a toss-up,I can see chang outworking Carbajal. But any fighter who swarms like that is pound to catch a haymaker from Carbajal who hit hard enough to ko even the sturdiest of chins (remember the Arce fight) Chang was better than Arce but i doubt if he was tougher and I know damn sure he didnt hit as hard,and Carbajal was past his prime when he fought Arce. That being said this fight is a tossup if they fight twice they go 1-1. RUbber match anyone?
     
  15. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you haven't actually watched any of these fights have you?.