Is Bernard Hopkins the greatest boxer of the last 20 years (1990-2009)?

I don't think he would pass Ray Leonard to be honest, not with just those two wins on top of his current resume. But yes, I could see top 3 if we're not including Duran in this time frame. Though obviously I can't actually commit to that fully, because as always the manner of victory is important. If Floyd engaged Mosley and Pac, and put them to the sword using the full range of his skills, then he would receive far more credit than if he skulks around the ring apron throwing single shots, holding, running the clock down, and receiving a margin of victory akin to that of his fights with Castillo and Oscar.

 

He is amazing

 

25 yrs is 1984/85, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns & Duran`s peak had all past by then, I was thinking those guys would be right in the heart of a `best in the last 30` discussion rather than a 25, I was thinking the Whitaker, Chavez, Pacquiao & RJJs, you think he could get ahead of them with clear victories over SSM & Pac ?

 

BERNARD HOPKINS will be one of the greatest fighters to ever put on a pair of boxing gloves.

 

Hell no Longevity is one thing fighting smaller guys is another !

 

Yeah, you are right about the timeline actually.

Yes, I would definitely have Floyd in a top three if he beats both Pac and Mosley and beats them well. I don't see it happening, but hypothetically yes, he would have earned that placing with those two wins.

 

Just going back to this and adding some random opinions on Hopkins:

I think he's a very shrewd fighter. His out of the ring tactics are very similar to his in the ring tactics. He's a smart man, who knows how to manipulate circumstances with fighters and fans, just like he knows how to turn opponents strengths into weaknesses.

I think one of his greatest achievements out if the ring, was convincing fans that his biggest wins, were bigger than they are. I think the way he ensured he fought big names at the wrong weight for them, was genius.

I think he could have fought De La Hoya at a catchweight between light middle and middle. He made 160lbs comfortably throughout his career and could have fought De La Hoya at a fairer weight.

He could have made 168lbs to fight Calzaghe but didn't. A catchweight again, would have been fair.

Wright should never have fought at such a high weight. But his resume now says "W12 Winky Wright" which is all some people see. Had they fought at 160lbs, I'm confident Winky would have won in a more dominant fashion than Hopkins won the actual bout.

Pavlik didn't belong anywhere above 160lbs and shouldn't have fought there. Hopkins shouldn't have suggested it either as he could have still made 160lbs. Pavlik was touted as the best middleweight since Hopkins so it made sense to fight at that weight, rather than one which took away Pavlik's strengths.

I'm not writing Hopkins off as a complety overrated fighter because he isn't. However, there are more to his fights than the result or the performances themselves. There is something else there that needs to be looked at, when reviewing his career.

 

Hopkins, to me is the 2nd or 3rd best boxer of the last 2o years. Roy Jones Owned the 90's hate him or love him. Floyd, Manny, and Bernard own this decade.

Overall, I'd say the top 10 is like this (just my opinion.)

1) Roy Jones Jr. (the Roy from 1989-2004)
2) Bernard Hopkins
3) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
4) Manny Pacquiao
5) Pernell Whitaker
6) Evander Holyfield
7) Shane Mosley
8) Oscar De La Hoya
9) Julio Cesar Chavez
10) Marco Antonio Barrera

 

Get to ****!

Where did this bull**** come from. Jones' resume post-168 is ****ing abysmal. He faced Griffin, Ruiz (not impressive really), Tarver and Johnson as guys of any note. And lost to three of them a total of four times!

Hopkins, on the other hand, achieved a record number of defences, beat everyone and anyone in his weight class (and is the only man to stop Johnson) until close fights with Taylor, including a prime Tito and a decent Oscar, then stepped up and whupped Tarver, beat Winky Wright for the first time in years (not a great victory in context though), then lost a close fight to Calzaghe, and beat Pavlik.

What has Jones got:

Hopkins, Toney, Hill, Griffin, Tarver (once and unconvincingly), Ruiz (****ing seriously?) and a well-shot Tito.

How ****ing impressive.

 

Not IMO

 

I agree with the bold ones but not with the rest. Hopkins and Jones were about even until Hopkins beat Pavlik up. Holyfield and Hopkins seems close but Holyfield lost too many and was too inconsistent. I´d put him 4th behind Whitaker, Pacquiao and Chavez.

 

Fixed :good

Oh and the bold ones are the guys who got caught cheating.

 

No, Manny is better. Maybe Whitaker and Roy Jones as well. Although I tend to think not.

 

in terms of longevity n consitancy no one is better

 

Says "popkins"

Nothing ******ed about that post. Oscars resume is easily as good as BHops.