How hard do you find it to rank Pacquiao...

No need to thank me you sorry illiterate, I have extracted your bull**** for you, and hung it out to dry via proper presentation.

 

I didn't think they let moronic fanboys like him onto the Classic Forum. This is the same guy who said David Haye is going to turn into Pernell Whitaker in order to fight someone 30lbs lighter than him.

I think I'm arguing with Stevie Wonder, because even a non-boxing fan (who didn't have any knowledge of Marquez's career and his performances at lightweight etc) could see that JMM was overweight for the Mayweather fight, and a clearly smaller man than Floyd.

 

Hes turned a simple point into the f*cking Matrix, but Im enjoying it as well.

 

You're enjoying being continually made to look like an utter knob? Cool! You can be my new pinata if you want! :good

 

Can anyone, Lefthook or anyone else, name me a win of any value from the last 30 years where the win was achieved by outpointing a naturally smaller man who jumped 2 divisions for the fight? Let's make it more accurate, where the weight-jumper was already in his 3rd weight class as world champion?

Anyone?

Or is it by nature not an achievement of any real value????

 

Will you stop that! I never said anything like that regarding Haye go back and read. I said he shouldnt go recklessly brawling from rd 1 to finish. I did in fact say that he should set a blistering active but controlled pace. It doesnt matter how old or weak you may perceive Hopkins as, given his track record as a savvy technician with a good chin, he could still slip something in on a guy with an unproven chin, if he threw caution to the wind.
As far as Marquez, when have I not acknowledged that JMM was not fighting at at natural weight?
When can you acknowledge that Floyd had something to do with his total domination of Marquez and it wasnt only because Marquez was seven pounds heavier that Mayweather performed like he did. Thats all that has to be acknowledged to end this and the only point Ive been making all along.........:dead

 

Whatever douchebag, your continued use of profanity and attempted slander only makes you look like a bigger fool than you already are and your last post again, has absolutely no bearing to the discussion or points Ive been making all along so you can try and twist it into whatever you want.
If my points make no sense, why do you keep responding? Why do you continue to become more defensive, hurling more and more insults after each post?

 

I'll stop nothing... except you from looking like a complete dick with your rubbish underlined quote responses. I will continue to fix them for you before I reply to at least try and give this prolonged ownage a shred of credibility and not leave it looking like some amorphous blob of nonsense.

Mayweather would have beaten Marquez at 130. If he had done, he would be due credit. He is not due credit for making a man jump a further 2 weight divisions, then outpointing a fat little diminshed version of Juan Manuel Marquez. No fighter is due credit for a size mismatch.

And I'm still waiting for you to confront this:

 

Not that it has any relevance to the points Im making but Sam Peters win over James Toney.

 

Because you are a biased fanboy and I enjoy exposing people like you.

So Floyd beating Marquez has value?

OK, fine, tell me one other fight from the modern era which is a win of any value where Fighter A made Fighter B jump 2 weight divisions, when Fighter B was already in his 3rd weight class as a champion, and outpointed him?

This is exactly what Floyd did. I have asked you repeatedly would you rate it if Mosley, Pacquiao or Williams done likewise, and you shirk out of answering.

Name me one single other instance from the postwar modern era where such a win has been achieved, and has value as a win... :smoke

 

That would be a f-f-f-f-f-f-FAIL of an answer!!!!

James Toney was already at heavyweight before he fought Sam Peter, he did not even jump 1 weight division never mind 2 for that fight, yet again you are talking absolute dog****! Try again!! :hi:

 

Its close enough, especially considering it has no relevance to anything Ive said. Toney was never a big heavyweight just got rounder and rounder. Certainly enhanced Peters career.
Youve managed to convince yourself that Ive put some sort of legacy enhancing tag on Mayweathers win over JMM. Go back and read maybe you can get it when you sober up.:deal

 

Here let me put it in BIG Letters so you can see it when you peel yourself off the floor in the morning.

No what I should have said so possibly you would get it is:

No fighter of Marquez skillset after coming off of two competitive fights in which he won both by knockout on a world class level at 135 pounds would render himself as ineffective as he was against Mayweather simply by putting on an additional seven pounds. Mayweathers skills had something to do with it.

:hi:

 

Sober up? I don't drink alcohol so that would be pretty tricky. :huh

"Close enough"?? It's nothing even remotely like it! Toney had already had several fights at heavyweight before he fought Peter, he was clearly established and comfortable at the weight.

Marquez jumped 2 divisions to fight Floyd.

I expected a crap answer, but your bizarre failure to read and understand the question, then that abysmal attempt at an answer further underline what a dimwit you really are.

Try again though, I could do with another laugh you biased little man..... :good

 

Hmmm, getting annoyed now are we?

I'm not going to retaliate in similarly idiotic fashion, because I'm not annoyed, I'm not the one getting publicly flogged.

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If I'm wrong, tell me one other single instance of this from boxing history which produced a meaningful win! The question is not going to go away you know! :good