PBF's 154 lbs and 10 oz gloves = EMBARASSING

psychopath · Dec 5, 2009

vegasdude said: ↑

It has been confirmed that this is true. It is down right embarassing that he even had the audacity to ask Manny to go up to 154 and use 10 oz gloves. It makes you think that he scared of Manny's speed at 147 or probably with his power with 8 oz gloves.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...Obstacles-to-Manny-vs-Money-weight-and-gloves

Add the 60/40 purse... it almost makes you believe he is ducking Pacman.

I hope he agrees with the 147 lbs (no catch weight BS), 8 oz gloves, and 50/50 purse split. If he does not agree, well I say he is ducking Pacquiao, plain and simple.
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Relax bruh . . . you all know I'm not exactly a Floyd fan . . . but let's be fair . . . that article is based on opinion and speculation

. . . there's is a GAG agreement between both parties . . . therefore that info cannot be verified.

pngo · Dec 5, 2009

pejevan said: ↑

Why don't they just come with what size of gloves they prefer. Mayweather with a 10 ounces, whilke Pac with an 8 ounces or better, bare fisted.
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Isn't 10 oz gloves what they use in Las Vegas?

darryl1914 · Dec 5, 2009

vegasdude said: ↑

It has been confirmed that this is true. It is down right embarassing that he even had the audacity to ask Manny to go up to 154 and use 10 oz gloves. It makes you think that he scared of Manny's speed at 147 or probably with his power with 8 oz gloves.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-4514-Houston-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Obstacles-to-Manny-vs-Money-weight-and-gloves

Add the 60/40 purse... it almost makes you believe he is ducking Pacman.

I hope he agrees with the 147 lbs (no catch weight BS), 8 oz gloves, and 50/50 purse split. If he does not agree, well I say he is ducking Pacquiao, plain and simple.
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I really hope one of the "Mods" close this Thread...Because its 100% FALSE!!!

WITH "NO HESITATION" MAYWEATHER AGREED TO A WELTERWEIGHT 147LBS FIGHT 50/50 SPLIT...PERIOD!!! AND ARUM TOOK THAT DEAL TO MANNY PACQUIAO.

To spread such a LIE is absolutely INEXCUSABLE AND UNEXCEPTABLE!!!

And this poster has assured that NO-ONE will ever take him SERIOUSLY!!!

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!!!

vegasdude · Dec 5, 2009

4themind said: ↑

" Pac countered 147, 8 oz gloves, 50/50.

Manny Pacquiao COUNTERED (meaning PBF's original offer were just bullcrap) on the following:
Weight to be at 147 so most likely it was at 154.
Gloves to be at 8 oz so most likely it was at 10 oz.
Purse split to be at 50/50 so most likely it was 60/40.

*********** and other sites are reporting 154, 10 oz. so this is nothing new. Google it for f*cks sake.

Good night NOW!
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Few things,
1.)You haven't proven that Roach knew about those negotiating factors when he made the interview vs. talking out of his ass or talking about a hypothetical aspect of "negotiations, like"(I think you realize that possibility though as you say "most likely")

2.)You haven't provided any sources other than that sky interview, which isn't in and of itself definitive proof as to the status of the negotiations. (so if the other "google" hits for 154 and 10oz gloves also use the same source (the freddie sky roach interview) then it really doesn't add anything to the discussion.

3.)it's further called into question by comments that roach made just a few hours later: http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/10464558/Sources:-Pacquiao-Mayweather-fight-on-for-March
:""One hundred and forty seven is ok with us," said Roach, "but we're still working on some of the other stuff like the gloves. I'm sure (Mayweather) wants 10-ounce gloves. We want eight ounces. But Bob told me he'll take care of all that."
Suggesting , that it was the gloves that was the hang up, not the weight (maybe the mayweathers already agreed to the counter offer, told arum, then arum told roach, all in time before that interview.... or maybe not, it's speculation, like much of everything, from our perspective as fans)

4.)Just to reiterate, you assume that Roach is speaking truthfully and from knowledge, an assumption that some just don't want to make based upon both his seeming vacillating demands and prior assessments of what the mayweather camp wanted(i.e. on the march date, claiming of floyd's camp : ""We want to fight in March, They don't want to go that early"(http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iPShKhPdAz9qhZwuR0ZsoSFAouKA), which was thrown to question just 24 hours later and then roach HIMSELF saying later: The March date would be too early. It has got to be May.(http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/...achine-but-needs-12-week-camp-for-mayweather/). So some people want additional sources to freddie for these things, maybe you don't but that's just one thing people are going to have to agree to disagree on,just a matter of opinion & trust from many of our perspectives really

I'm not making any claim as to what went on during the negotiations, but if you are the burden of proof is on you, and in order to do so you have to eliminate the alternatives. If you're just stating your opinion based on what "evidence" you've seen, then that's fine, as long as it's recognized for what it is.
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Ellerbe, the burden of proof goes both ways. And I'm not reading your garbage novel... I know it probably pisses you off cuz it took you hours to research but still not creditable. I started the thread to quote a link.

I'm just here to report things.

vegasdude · Dec 5, 2009

darryl1914 said: ↑

I really hope one of the "Mods" close this Thread...Because its 100% FALSE!!!

WITH "NO HESITATION" MAYWEATHER AGREED TO A WELTERWEIGHT 147LBS FIGHT 50/50 SPLIT...PERIOD!!! AND ARUM TOOK THAT DEAL TO MANNY PACQUIAO.

To spread such a LIE is absolutely INEXCUSABLE AND UNEXCEPTIONABLE!!!

And this poster has assured that NO-ONE will ever take him SERIOUSLY!!!

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!!!
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I'm just hear to report things.
Google 154 10 oz Mayweather... there are plenty of sources. I know it's hard to believe but until we see the original contract it is very possible.

I think crying for the mods won't help. Remember I'm just reporting things and not making up any accusation, as I said before, the burden of proof works both ways.

Sorry PBF nuthuggers but you need to post a link otherwise. :smoke

Bill Butcher · Dec 5, 2009

The only reason that this thread has 173 posts in such a short time is because its anti-Mayweather.

Floyd aint my favourite fighter but some of you guys need to get a fkn life.... THATS embarrassing :-(

blur · Dec 5, 2009

this thread should be closed

pauliemayweathe · Dec 5, 2009

****ing joke.....does this bull**** ever stop? the guy signed...the fight is on...stop whining

pauliemayweathe · Dec 5, 2009

taylormade21 said: ↑

floyd is a ****** plain and simple
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yeah whatever u say...people make **** up then isiots like u say he is a ******...he will whip pac...and I CAN'T WAIT

vegasdude · Dec 5, 2009

pauliemayweathe said: ↑

****ing joke.....does this bull**** ever stop? the guy signed...the fight is on...stop whining
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A thread is a thread, if you don't like it move on. Btw, thanks for the bump. :hey

pauliemayweathe · Dec 5, 2009

vegasdude said: ↑

I'm just hear to report things.
Google 154 10 oz Mayweather... there are plenty of sources. I know it's hard to believe but until we see the original contract it is very possible.

I think crying for the mods won't help. Remember I'm just reporting things and not making up any accusation, as I said before, the burden of proof works both ways.

Sorry PBF nuthuggers but you need to post a link otherwise. :smoke
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NUT HUGGERS??? u come on here with the dumbest post ever and now people who defend the fact that floyd took THE FIGHT AT 147...WHICH HE DID are just nuthuggers

vegasdude · Dec 5, 2009

pauliemayweathe said: ↑

NUT HUGGERS??? u come on here with the dumbest post ever and now people who defend the fact that floyd took THE FIGHT AT 147...WHICH HE DID are just nuthuggers
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That's not the point. He took what Manny Pacquiao countered which is 147 versus the alleged 154, 10 oz gloves. I put "alleged" and I truly hope this makes you feel better.

Peace brother. :thumbsup

ceebz · Dec 5, 2009

pngo said: ↑

Isn't 10 oz gloves what they use in Las Vegas?
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10 oz. gloves are used from 154 and up through heavyweight. 8 oz. gloves are used @ 147 and below.

ceebz · Dec 5, 2009

pauliemayweathe said: ↑

****ing joke.....does this bull**** ever stop? the guy signed...the fight is on...stop whining
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Uh, no. Neither guy has signed ****. And judging from this interview with Pac, Floyd did at least ask for 10 oz. gloves:

http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/...cquiao-i-want-to-fight-mayweather-very-badly/

FH: How important are the eight-ounce gloves?

Pacquiao: That's a very important aspect of the negotiations to me. I really want to use the eight-ounce gloves.

pngo · Dec 5, 2009

ceebz said: ↑

10 oz. gloves are used from 154 and up through heavyweight. 8 oz. gloves are used @ 147 and below.
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I know that but I think in Las Vegas they use 10 oz. gloves in 147, can anyone confirm this?

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