"Duran-Cuevas" of 1983.... Classic or Farce?

Quick KO's generally aren't a beating, rather more so an icing.... Hearns iced Cuevas pretty quickly with little pain involved....... Its not like Cuevas was all busted up internally after being parked by Hearns in 1980...... If anything, Cuevas lost it mentally after that loss in '80.... Physically he was fine.... IMO!!!

On the other hand, a guy like Duran who never took a real beating in his life was butchered and bagged by Hearns later in 1984...... That type of quick KO was a beating......... Duran was dropped 2X and cut above the eye in the first stanza with Hearns.... And by the second round, Duran was on wobbly legs getting tagged with right hands that he was incapable of seeing or stopping.... Christ, Duran took several wicked ass shots to the head and body before falling back to the ropes to eat the Big Mac right of Hearns' that planted Duran like a seed in a cabbage field..........

Two quick KO's by Tommy Hearns, but the fights / beatings were different.........
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MR.BILL:bbb

 

Say WTF?:huh C'mon, Johnny boy.... Point was Duran's KO loss to Hearns was MUCH MORE worse than what Cuevas endured from Hearns in 1980........:deal

HOWEVER! In 1983, Duran's '84 loss to Hearns had nothing to do with his fight with Cuevas in Los Angeles.......:nono

MR.BILL

 

Johnny,

You gotta put all that 'Sigmund Freud' hanky panky aside and move with the flow.... Too much "Intellect" will haunt a man........ Best results generally stem from being short and sweet.........
think

MR.BILL

 

Johnny Boy,

I love you...... I do............ But that doesn't mean I wouldn't give a King's ransom to rap you in the mouth..... It's the intellectual types like you that cause me to tilt the bottle more so than ever.......
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MR.BILL

 

I've been here tweaked a few times, but I still pride myself with having seen, taped and read a lot over the last 30 + yrs since I've been following the racket.......... I'm not sold on names or just anybody who wins an ABC title....... Winning a title, whether fans like it or not, is NOT as big of a deal as it was prior to 1984..........
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The WBA / WBC was all we needed... It was more than enough, too... Then came the IBF, WAA, WBU, IBO, IBA, IBC, WBF & WBO.......... I'm sure there is more.... We don't need them.........
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I also feel we've had some pretty good fighters who were average champions..... Like: "Eddie M. Muhammad, Roger Mayweather, Milton McCrory, Saoul Mamby, Mo Hope, Juan LaPorte, Billy Costello, Rocky Lockridge" and several others..... All good fighters; not great champions.......
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That truly applies to MOST of the title holders at heavyweight in the 80s aside from "Holmes and Tyson." Them guys were great.... But guys like: "Weaver, Dokes, Coetzee, Page, Tubbs, Spoon, Thomas, Berbick, Smith, Tucker & Mike Spinks" were all damn good fighters above 200 pounds, but did they ever do or deserve to be classified as great champs at 200+ pounds???? NO!!!
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MR.BILL

Q: Is Pipino Cuevas a former GREAT champion? I suppose... His reign from '76 to '80 was nice......... Was Cuevas truly a great fighter? Not really... Bizarre....


Q: Is Roberto Duran a great fighter / champion? YES!! Nuff said...:good:hey:bbb

MR.BILL:hat

 

Let's keep this debate rolling................... I've looked this fight over the last few days, and Duran basically hurt Cuevas with all he threw in rds 3 & 4....... Cuevas landed a few wide hooks on Duran, but Duran was hardly moved at all over the duration........

MR.BILLhat:admin

 

Bumped on June 2, 2011...:bbb:deal

 

Well, Duran of Jan. 1983 was already age 31 and on a bad streak against "Benitez, Laing, along with a lousy win over Batten" in 1982 and was thought to be washed-up going in against the still WAY SOUTH of age 30 Cuevas in 1983.... Duran at 152 pounds was conditioned and battered the conditioned 149 pound Cuevas in Los Angeles..... Fact is, one guy (Duran) was truly great, while the other vato (Cuevas) was merely good.... Still, I love the overall action for 4 rds..... DOOOORAN!!!

MR.BILL:hat