Last night shows why we need 15 rounds

Maybe they should just fight until someone quits or gets knocked out. None of this decision crap! If it was good enough for John L. Sullivan, it's good enough for us!

 

What happened is the sad fight of Mancino vs.Duk Koo Kim when Kim lost to Mancini in 1982 in I think the 14th round. I saw that fight live on ABC TV or CBS, but it was on regular weekend TV. It was very sad and depressing and because of that eventually the fights were taken to 12-and other fights, but that fight was the main one which reduced the rounds I think. By 1986 or 1987 all championship fights were lowered to 12 rounds. I am not exactly sure on this, maybe someone who knows better than I can say what the full reasons were.

 

Wouldn't happen nowadays. We will never go back to 15 either. Also, if you made fights where someone quits or gets knocked out but no limit, can you imagine the pace of the fights in the early rounds? That would slow the pace down. If guys are going 20-25 rounds you really think the early rounds will be exciting? No way, and even if some fights might be exciting, then you would have no need for past 12 rounds since it will end before 12.

 

I know.
It cheats the fans too.

Imagine if the World cup final, superbowl or a Blockbuster movie only lasted for 36 minutes?!..... its a total rip off;

And dont give me undercards.People pay their PPV,arena tickets predominantly for the main event, not undercards.
45 minutes of action is slightly better value for fans and many fights, and fight fans, are crying out for those extra 3 rounds.

The WBC are *******s for starting tjhe 12 round trend.

 

I don't think so. 12 rounds is better than 15. It's about skill not endurance.

 

thats right. I don't think the actual fighters would want to go unlimited rounds until someone quits or is knocked out. boxing careers would last 2 or 3 years at that rate. Have you guys ever noticed how happy fighters are when the bell rings to the last round? If it was a tough fight, they want the fight to end at that point regardless of winning or not. I agree with an earlier post which said that 12 rounds is enough. It is. A good fighter can find a way to win in 12 rounds.

 

It is a little different playing football for 36 minute and the coach pulling guy out and putting guys back in then a boxer in the ring for 36 minutes. Those guys are not getting hit by punches from a professional fighter.

 

12 rounds fits nicely into an hours TV slot, including ads, 15 Rounds didnt.
Thats why it was reduced.
The Dum Koo Kim tragedy was just an excuse to change it to suit the TV execs, under the pretense of safety.

 

and we also need legit judges....like the NFL or MLB for big fights....thats a worse problem than the lack of 3 extra rounds

 

Yep , but they do get 11 minutes of rest periods, and im only calling for 3 more rounds, ala the old system, not 20 + plus rounds.
You know, Like Ali, Leonard, Duran, Monzon, Hagler etc etc fought.

Im not asking for anything outrageous or ridiculous here.
Just a return to the preceding distance.

 

Most of those fights were on CBS sports saturday or ABC wide world of sports which had other sports on there. I remember being upset once when I had to wait and watch an iditorod race before the boxing match. I also felt sorry for the dogs having to run in those conditions since I love animals. But back to boxing and 15 to 12 rounds, I have to assume the reduction had to do with the fighters safety and not television time.

 

a liked 15 rounds---it added a greater element of endurance and with that tactics---it also reduced the power of sheer explosiveness---there would have been no debate about chavez-taylor for instance if it had been 15 rounder....a guy like chavez would have been even more dominant...the last great 15 round fight between holyfield and qawi was an examole of what those extra 3 rounds do---there like the ninth inning--they had a mystique which the 10-12 just don't. i am also not convinced that dropping three rounds really saves the health of fighters---particularly sicnce they cn train for greater pure explosiveness and the attendant damdge that it can inflict....

 

15 rounds was done away with for a reason. No need to increase risk of these guys lives. There are better ways to improve the efficiency of scoring.

 

Watch Leonard-Duran 1 or Pryor-Arguello1, Leonard- Hearns1 , Ali-Frazier 3, Holyfield-Qawi 1........and so on.
They didnt hold back, not a bit of it,