Stop overrating martinez please!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VanillaKilla, Dec 6, 2009.


  1. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    your right styles do make fights, but what has williams done to deserve the accolades hes recieved, i dont get it, his victory over right is one of the most overrated victorys on this site, lets talk pound for pound, mayweather defines pound for pound, he has pure boxing skill, that no matter what weight he fought he would still have, williams has height reach advantages are his primary weapons and his activity and stamina, he would lose half of his advantages if he went to super middle like he said he would, so i think its clear hes not pound for pound elite. I think both martinez and williams are amazing junior middles, and their styles are great for the sport, in terms of their weight classes neither is overrated , martinez is way underrated and alwasy has been, williams in ppound for pound ranks is way overrated, because i believe people have forgotten the true definition of pound for pound
     
  2. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** OFF!! Martinez is very underated!
     
  3. Drknowitall

    Drknowitall All Knowing Full Member

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    Martinez is on a whole other level than foreman, he would knock him out or win a clear decision. If you cant see this then you are ignorant low IQ ESB poster.

    You have been Informed!!!

    By the good Dr.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Martinez performances vs Cintron and PW far, far, far outweighs Foreman's beating a washed up Santos. No comparison.
     
  5. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    who the **** has cintron beaten???? His best win is a never was estrada, or a washed up teddy reid :patsch

    dont say angulo, cuz angulo hasnt beaten anyone he is all hbo hype.

    Cmon, cintron has never beaten a top level guy. He got a paper title vacated by mayweather...
     
  6. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    santos might be washed up, but he looked good in his fight against acline. At least hes a proven top level guy.....
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch Is that all you can say? "Who has he beaten?" Is that how you judge a fighter, by their resume? Here's an idea, base it off what you SEE them do instead...
     
  8. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok genius, i base it off what i see them do against GOOD fighters. Anyone can look impressive against sub par comp. what matters is looking good against top comp. OFCOURSE i base a fight off who he has beaten........ Thats what being a legit champ is about :huh

    to be the best you gotta beat the best. I guess that dont matter anymore :nut
     
  9. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Spinks is one of those guys who is impossible to look good against just ask Taylor. I'd favor Martinez but a boring decision for Spinks would not be a shocker
     
  10. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey guys, fighter A beat a welterweight fighter (who has never beaten top welter comp), and beat a good light middle fighter (i say good, based off his light middle resume, which is good not great)

    Face it, you guys are rating him based off potential and not based of acomplishments... Yeah thats right i base a fighter off acomplishments.........

    If he had beaten a lot of good fighters or 1 great(think undisputed champ) fighter, then it would be a diff story...

    But 1 never was welter, and a good light middle dosent automatically make you "the man" without reasonable doubt :patsch
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    that's right bud. that's why you gotta give sergio the credit for almost pulling it off vs. williams. hell of a fight
     
  12. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    beating and old verno phillips, and a shot winky dosent make one "the best"
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    almost beating the most avoided fighter in the world in his prime and almost pulling the upset is a hell of an accomplishment.
     
  14. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tell me this guys, did quintatina become number 1 ww, and top p4p when he beat williams???

    he beat "the most avoided guy" :yep
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    nope, because u gotta remember, cotto was number 1 at the time.